heloguy Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 450 euro? ffs... i9 12900k @ 4.9ghz, 64gb RAM Nvidia RTX 3090 Windows 11 x64 Pimax Crystal VP Force Rhino w/RS F16GRH, Virpil TCS Rotor Plus AH-64 Collective, BRD F1 Pedals, WH Throttle, FSSB R3 w/WH Grip, PointCTRL v2
RogueSqdn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Just ordered new VPC throttle, F-14 grip and TM F/A-18 grip. This one’s going to have to wait a few months. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
chief Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Just ordered new VPC throttle, F-14 grip and TM F/A-18 grip. This one’s going to have to wait a few months. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah I just ordered the V3 VIRPIL throttle and waiting possibly on the winwing. I already have their FSSB R3 and can’t see spending 450 euro when I already have the fssb.
Supmua Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 This grip isn’t a base though. It’s an electronic joystick with Bluetooth technology that has built in sensors so you could use it as a stand alone device. It has no force sensing module found in FSSB base, but can also be used with it if you wish. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
RogueSqdn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Already have the FSSB R3. I just want this grip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
Supmua Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Already have the FSSB R3. I just want this grip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I already preordered mine :) PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
chief Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I already preordered mine :) Out of curiosity, why would you spend that much when you already have the r3? You're paying a lot for a few more buttons than what the TM stick has
RogueSqdn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 A LOT more buttons. There's a total of 64 on this grip compared to 23 on the WH grip (if you count the POV). DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
Supmua Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Out of curiosity, why would you spend that much when you already have the r3? You're paying a lot for a few more buttons than what the TM stick has I’m a collector, this will be my 7th grip. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Supmua Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 New F-16 grip from Realsimulator A LOT more buttons. There's a total of 64 on this grip compared to 23 on the WH grip (if you count the POV). 36 physical buttons I think, but you can assign extra DX buttons using combination of physical buttons up to 64 total—and since these are counted as DX buttons they can be plugged into DCS settings directly. Pretty convenient if you don’t use external joystick app, and everything is saved on the device so there is no need to run app in background. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
RogueSqdn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 You may be correct. That said, I think they're stating that you can use the Z function of a switch as a shift for that switch. DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
chief Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Still, 4t0 euro for more buttons is a whole lotta money. I have a lot of sticks, throttles, etc but there comes a time and place when I realize I’m nutz! ;)
Supmua Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 There are people here who would spend much more for military or industrial grade devices that do the same job. That’s why we don’t drive the same kind of cars, and yes they all go from point A to point B. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
chief Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 oh I get. I'm not attacking you. Was just curious. I'm the same way sometimes. I probably have just as many controllers as anyone else. I did the same when I went from the T50 stick to the T50 cm2. Spent another couple hundred for a couple more buttons. Every time I switch planes I'm swapping out different hotas's, rudder pedals, etc. I think we are all just a little insane though
Supmua Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) New F-16 grip from Realsimulator They call it GAS (gear acquisition syndrome), in some camera forums. Now this is an electronic joystick, not quite the same as the Warthog with extra buttons. Edited July 1, 2019 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Shadoga Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 I'm loving Realsimulator's products for more than 15 years now, but this is way too much: Grip 450,00 EUR Tax 94,50 EUR Shipping 45,45 EUR (you serious? - it's only from Spain to Germany!) Total 589,95 EUR I'd love to, but no thanks! Waiting for WinWing combo reviews.
chief Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Yeah to tell you the truth I think we are getting overcharged on some of these items for shipping. I think it was 70 eur f Shipping for a VIRPIL warbrd grip and the box weighed MAYBE 2 pounds and was small. If I ordered a throttle wth that it still would have been 70. Makes zero sense
Supmua Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 I'm loving Realsimulator's products for more than 15 years now, but this is way too much: Grip 450,00 EUR Tax 94,50 EUR Shipping 45,45 EUR (you serious? - it's only from Spain to Germany!) Total 589,95 EUR I'd love to, but no thanks! Waiting for WinWing combo reviews. You guys in Europe are getting creamed. It costed me $563.8 including shipping. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
horus-DCS Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 I'm loving Realsimulator's products for more than 15 years now, but this is way too much: Grip 450,00 EUR Tax 94,50 EUR Shipping 45,45 EUR (you serious? - it's only from Spain to Germany!) Total 589,95 EUR I'd love to, but no thanks! Waiting for WinWing combo reviews. That additional cost is so ridiculous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Boris Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 I fail to see how this grip has a significant advantage over the Warthog grip. PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update
Ranma13 Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Additional buttons (36 physical, 64 virtual), 8 profiles, Bluetooth connection, and analog axes built into the grip itself. Like the FSSB R3 base, this isn't a product for budget-conscious consumers, it's for enthusiasts that have a real need for its features. The biggest selling point is the built-in axes and Bluetooth connection, making it no longer dependent on the base it's mounted on and whether or not it supports the stick. You can mount it on virtually anything as long as it has the proper threading and it will still work as a joystick. This isn't going to matter for people who are only in the market for TM/VKB/Virpil devices, but it's a pretty big deal for home cockpit builders looking for a custom setup that the current commercial devices don't serve.
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