abak Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Hi, I've started practicing Case I in turbulent weather. I find it nearly impossible to fly it "by the rules" when turbulence in Mission Editor is higher than 15 or maybe 20. This corresponds to fluctuations of plus-minus 1.5..2 m/s, which is seemingly not too much, before you actually try it. Even when I land successfully, there are quite a few issues that I don't like: 1) My AoA is all over the place, anywhere between 5 and 11, and I cannot correct it fast enough. 2) I have to use the stick to counter decsent rate changes when I hit turbulence. 3) I find it easier to fly one ball high. Once in a while I try to keep it centered, but the following instant a random sink or lift makes me overcorrect with two possible outcomes: bolter or wave off. 4) As a result of flying a steeper glideslope, I typically crash into the deck at 900-1000 fpm. Are there any specific tips how to maintain the glideslope in turbulent air? I will be grateful if someone could record a track or a short video just to demonstrate how it should be done properly. To illustrate, this video is probably the best that I can pull off. Turbulence is set to 3 m/s (30 in Mission Editor).
maxTRX Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 I do it roughly the same way. As a matter of fact I posted a clip in neighboring thread discussing Case III in monstrous t-storms. Same as you... I catch myself nudging the stick on occasion. The gusts are one thing but the pitching deck is a mother...
majapahit Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) I do it roughly the same way. As a matter of fact I posted a clip in neighboring thread discussing Case III in monstrous t-storms. Same as you... I catch myself nudging the stick on occasion. The gusts are one thing but the pitching deck is a mother... In these severe conditions you do not 'maintain glideslope' as by instrument read outs. You rather maintain 'a virtual descent as per accumulated practice that calculates and applies the considerations of the 3D pendulum movement of the deck, by eye sight, so to land exactly within the envelope of trapping when one has reached the deck'. All this was shown in that certain (decades old, on YT) carrier operations documentary with FA18's landing, and the last one in, that certain wing commander now famous for that recently widely admitted and published UFO incident with the Nimitz. Edited July 7, 2019 by majapahit | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
Ahmed Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 Probably the S&A guys will be able to give you better advice but: 1) My AoA is all over the place, anywhere between 5 and 11, and I cannot correct it fast enough. 2) I have to use the stick to counter decsent rate changes when I hit turbulence. You will need to be more agressive with your control inputs (especially throttles) in these conditions and you will have to live with the brief AoA oscilations. 3) I find it easier to fly one ball high. Once in a while I try to keep it centered, but the following instant a random sink or lift makes me overcorrect with two possible outcomes: bolter or wave off. 4) As a result of flying a steeper glideslope, I typically crash into the deck at 900-1000 fpm. I wouldn't advocate for the one ball high target, you are setting yourself up for that firm landing, or a long bolter scenario.
CBStu Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 I thought that was a dang nice trap. As of now, I can't do that well w/ no wind at all. I know this may be heresy, but I see nothing wrong w/ using the stick to help out once in a while. I do. To me AOA is important but it's greatest importance is having the plane at the right AOA over the deck so the hook grabs a cable. When I am somewhere on the downwind leg, and suddenly realize I am 1-300ft high, yeah I can use the throttle to fix that, but I can use the stick and fix it a lot faster.
Shotsx74 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 @Abak, is that the LSO Script you are using? or something custom?
abak Posted July 8, 2019 Author Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) @Abak, is that the LSO Script you are using? or something custom?This is Alerax's LSO AI script: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3674407 Edited July 8, 2019 by abak
Joker328 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 All this was shown in that certain (decades old, on YT) carrier operations documentary with FA18's landing, and the last one in, that certain wing commander now famous for that recently widely admitted and published UFO incident with the Nimitz. I knew I recognized that guy from somewhere!
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