StarVenger Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 S~ Gents and Ladies, After the update without a hitch. I'm just sharing my experience while taking Viper out for a spin over the Caucasus. Anyone experienced this issue while low, fast and turning hard? MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI II + MSI RTX4090 Gaming X Trio 24G OC + Intel I9-14900K + 64GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance + Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle + Virpil Constellation ALPHA (R) + VKB Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate + Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + WinWing Orion 2 F-16EX Viper Joystick + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F/A-18 Hornet Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F-15EX Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals + MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals + Pico 4 + HP Reverb G2 + Track IR5 + Tobii Eye Tracker 5 + ASUS PG38UQ Monitor + LG 34GN850-B Monitor
bbrz Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Yes. No need to turn. Accelerating in level flight causes slight pitch oscillations between 650 and 800kias. (maximum between 700-750) Above 870kias I'm experiencing the same phenomenon like you do. Edited October 12, 2019 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
StarVenger Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 That is not slight oscillation :) I think it is not just in the pitch. Please care to look at the rudder after each bank or roll. MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI II + MSI RTX4090 Gaming X Trio 24G OC + Intel I9-14900K + 64GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance + Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle + Virpil Constellation ALPHA (R) + VKB Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate + Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + WinWing Orion 2 F-16EX Viper Joystick + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F/A-18 Hornet Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F-15EX Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals + MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals + Pico 4 + HP Reverb G2 + Track IR5 + Tobii Eye Tracker 5 + ASUS PG38UQ Monitor + LG 34GN850-B Monitor
bbrz Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Again, there's a very noticable high frequency pitch oscillation between 650-800kias. But the pitch oscilliation has been there already in the previous release. This has nothing to do with the severe roll/yaw excursions at higher speeds. Edited October 12, 2019 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
StarVenger Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 Got it, thanks bbrz. ~S :) MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI II + MSI RTX4090 Gaming X Trio 24G OC + Intel I9-14900K + 64GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance + Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle + Virpil Constellation ALPHA (R) + VKB Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate + Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + WinWing Orion 2 F-16EX Viper Joystick + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F/A-18 Hornet Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F-15EX Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals + MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals + Pico 4 + HP Reverb G2 + Track IR5 + Tobii Eye Tracker 5 + ASUS PG38UQ Monitor + LG 34GN850-B Monitor
Bouli306 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Max speed for Viper is 800kts or M2.05 whichever comes first. That does not say that what you experience is correct.
bbrz Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Don't know about the F-16, but VMO/MMO on most jets is at least 10% lower than VDF. Edited October 12, 2019 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Gianky Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 I experienced this, too, already in the previous patch (first Falcon release), it was in RedKite's refuel mission, I was up at 20 k feet, in leveled, straight flight and accelerated to Mach 1.03 (don't remember how many knots, probably more than 650 TAS), pitch oscillations started; from external view it was clear that the stabilators were moving up and down, without any input. I don't have a track, but, if it can be useful, I have a tacview file.
macedk Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 I had the wobble as well down low OS: Win10 home 64bit*MB: Asus Strix Z270F/ CPU: Intel I7 7700k /Ram:32gb_ddr4 GFX: Nvidia Asus 1080 8Gb Mon: Asus vg2448qe 24" Disk: SSD Stick: TM Warthog #1400/Saitek pro pedals/TIR5/TM MFDs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ECTAE Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 I had this issue while getting close to the tanker, 400knts and caused by the horizontal stabs not the vertical like in your vid... Weird
StarVenger Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI II + MSI RTX4090 Gaming X Trio 24G OC + Intel I9-14900K + 64GB DDR5 Corsair Vengeance + Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle + Virpil Constellation ALPHA (R) + VKB Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate + Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + WinWing Orion 2 F-16EX Viper Joystick + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F/A-18 Hornet Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion 2 Throttle and F-15EX Grip with Finger Lifts + WinWing Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals + MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals + Pico 4 + HP Reverb G2 + Track IR5 + Tobii Eye Tracker 5 + ASUS PG38UQ Monitor + LG 34GN850-B Monitor
mvsgas Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 What mods do you guys have installed? Does it behave like this even without mods? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Bouli306 Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 I experienced this, too, already in the previous patch (first Falcon release), it was in RedKite's refuel mission, I was up at 20 k feet, in leveled, straight flight and accelerated to Mach 1.03 (don't remember how many knots, probably more than 650 TAS), pitch oscillations started; from external view it was clear that the stabilators were moving up and down, without any input. I don't have a track, but, if it can be useful, I have a tacview file. You did not forget to close your air refuel door?
bbrz Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 What mods do you guys have installed? Does it behave like this even without mods? No mods, no open refueling door. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Greyman Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 an open refuelling door does appear to have a significant impact on the smoothness of the flight, especially for a relatively small "hole".
Gianky Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 You did not forget to close your air refuel door? I was going to the tanker and already set up for refueling, so yes, the door was open. I'll test it with the door closed as soon as I can.
ECTAE Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 I had the refuel door open when started but closing didn't fixed it. I had to lower my speed a lot. Horizontal stab was moving up and down like crazy.
F16FLCS-SME Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 an open refuelling door does appear to have a significant impact on the smoothness of the flight, especially for a relatively small "hole". It has nothing to do with the size of the refueling receptacle. When the AIR REFUEL door is open the FLCS changes mode to "Slow Flight", the same when you lower the landing gear handle.
DrIoannis Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 Same thing here. Oscillation and a friend also went into a flat spin...
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