Quidding Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 Hi, iv been having this issue with random crashes playing dcs. I have tried numerous things to get it to stop, including reformating, reinstalling the game and /or drivers etc.. The same issue keeps happening and acording to the crash log there is some sort of memory where something is trying to access something that either does not exist or is not alloed Does anyone have any experience with this? i am running a i5-8400 6core 2.8GHz cpu with gtx 1070 gpu and 16gb of 2666 ram this is what is in the crash file: # -------------- 20191112-181027 -------------- DCS/2.5.5.39262 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18362) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at DB0CF4F0 00:00000000 SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.', symOptions: 534, UserName: 'rober' OS-Version: 10.0.18362 () 0x300-0x1 0x000000000011F4F0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0xD4F0 0x00000000000050ED (dx11backend): RenderAPI:: DX11Renderer::getBufferManager + 0x4BD 0x00000000000031C3 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::CustomMaterial_Impl::GetMaterialCaps + 0x5A3 0x0000000000032989 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::RenderObject::render + 0x39 0x00000000002289FE (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceParsedElement::self_render + 0x5E 0x000000000021AC02 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0xE2 0x000000000021ACA0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0x180 0x000000000021ACA0 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0x180 0x0000000000207600 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorPage::draw + 0x60 0x00000000002018E4 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicator::draw + 0x84 0x0000000000104AEE (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccCockpitContext::draw + 0x6E 0x00000000000F2B15 (CockpitBase): cockpit::Clickable::parseGlobalConfig + 0x2085 0x000000000039436B (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x000000000008136C (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::SetProjBounds + 0xE25C 0x0000000000080718 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::SetProjBounds + 0xD608 0x00000000005653F4 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x00000000005768D8 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x0000000000548104 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x00000000001BB62F (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x000000000072CB76 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x0000000000017BD4 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 0x000000000006CED1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
Neon_20 Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Do you have MSI afterburner installed? If you do try it without it.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 13, 2019 ED Team Posted November 13, 2019 Hello Quidding Welcome to the forum, sorry to see you are having issues. As mentioned above check MSI afterburner if it is installed, and I have a guide below for crash advice. If you continue to have the crash please attach your whole dcs.log here, just rename it to .txt and it will attach. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 13, 2019 Author Posted November 13, 2019 I do not have that installed. I have tried the steps but nothing seems to work. There crashes apear to be random. Some times i can play for an hour, some times only 5 min.. I will atatch the full log when i get home, and i have ordered new ram to see if that solved the problem..
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 13, 2019 ED Team Posted November 13, 2019 I would go for a gpu driver clean install it may also help I will take a look at your log when you are ready. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 Let me know if this was not the file you where looking for. i have tried clean install of the drivers, and also tried using older drivers and ofc the newest:(crashlog.txt
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 14, 2019 ED Team Posted November 14, 2019 I would recommend wiping your display driver and downloading the latest one. It looks like yours is crashing. 2019-11-14 08:37:57.409 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006 2019-11-14 08:37:57.438 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2019-11-14 08:37:57.438 ERROR DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG 2019-11-14 08:37:57.999 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006 2019-11-14 08:37:58.000 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2019-11-14 08:37:58.001 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20191114-083758 -------------- 2019-11-14 08:37:58.001 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.5.39384 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18362) 2019-11-14 08:37:58.002 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll 2019-11-14 08:37:58.002 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at D77AF Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 Yeah, i have tried to re install, and roll back, use the newest drivers.. but for whatever reason it is not working that well.. just did a full whipe of the drivers and i am gonna reinstall them. Will give you another log if it keeps happening. I am however wondering if the drivers crash because they are not getting the required resources fast enough, i noticed that the pagefile is a bit bigger than my total amount of memory 2019-11-14 08:27:27.762 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 6, threads: 6, System RAM: 16302 MB, Pagefile: 18734 MB of course dcs is a fairly demanding game, so i do not assume i can hold all the resources in my physical memory, but it might be possible that the proscess of fetching information from virtual memory is taking to long? But again this is not my field of expertice so i might be a bit out of water here:P
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 14, 2019 ED Team Posted November 14, 2019 You have 16gb RAM and your pagefile is a decent size, it should be ok. Is you card overclocked at all? Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 nope i have not edited any hardware
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 14, 2019 ED Team Posted November 14, 2019 Have you tried using DDU to remove the driver before installing the new one? Many of us use it for cleaning our drivers before doing new ones, it may help. Also ensure windows is up to date. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
fagulha Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 nope i have not edited any hardware Hello, Just to try all fixes to be sure: I had the same issue (Device removed etc) for a long time and tried all sort of fixes but the one who really fix this type of crash was to underclock my GPU with Firestorm (NVIDIA GPU here). My GPU was OC from factory default and i never thought that could be the problem. So, my advice is to try to underclock the Core clock of your gpu a little and then report back if it fix your problem please. Best regards, F. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Though Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 Still crashing after a clean install of the drivers, i used ddu to uninstall the drivers:/crash2.txt
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 14, 2019 ED Team Posted November 14, 2019 Can I ask you to test by renaming your dcs folder in saved games C:\Users\rober\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\ rename to C:\Users\rober\Saved Games\DCS.openbetabackup Then restart DCS and login and test, just want to rule out a settings / config / or mod issue. You can always move your input folder from the old to the new so you dont have to redo your controls. or if there is no change you can just use the backup again by changing back. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 yep i did that also:( trying to underclock the gpu now, let's see if that does anything
ED Team USSR_Rik Posted November 14, 2019 ED Team Posted November 14, 2019 Please attach here your dxdiag report, I suspected your pagefile is too low. Men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil. That road goes down and down. Можно держаться на одном уровне добра, но никому и никогда не удавалось удержаться на одном уровне зла. Эта дорога ведёт вниз и вниз. G.K. Chesterton DCS World 2.5: Часто задаваемые вопросы
Wait4It Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 If you keep having problems, even after a reformat, it's most likely a hardware problem. Can you run other games without crashes? Maybe try some benchmark software to see if that runs. Is it a new pc or have you played DCS without problems before on this machine?
Quidding Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 After i changed my memory and clocked down the gpu i have been having no issues. I still need to test it a bit more to be certain. I will let you know if the issues persist trough this. I put with the dxdiag here, so let me know what you guys think:) would be fun to understand why this happens and not just a roguh idea of how to cercumvent it..DxDiag.txt
fagulha Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 After i changed my memory and clocked down the gpu i have been having no issues. I still need to test it a bit more to be certain. I will let you know if the issues persist trough this. I put with the dxdiag here, so let me know what you guys think:) would be fun to understand why this happens and not just a roguh idea of how to cercumvent it.. I´ve been through hell until i found that fix my crashes... i really hope that it could help you please give feedback. Enjoy, Best regards, F. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Though Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 17, 2019 ED Team Posted November 17, 2019 After i changed my memory and clocked down the gpu i have been having no issues. I still need to test it a bit more to be certain. I will let you know if the issues persist trough this. I put with the dxdiag here, so let me know what you guys think:) would be fun to understand why this happens and not just a roguh idea of how to cercumvent it.. We do see a lot of users with factory overclocks having issues. I hope you are getting better results now. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Quidding Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 Unnfortunatly neither new memory nor underclocking the gpu seemes to help, as i had another crash today18.11 log.txt18.11 crash.txt
fagulha Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Unnfortunatly neither new memory nor underclocking the gpu seemes to help, as i had another crash today Dammit. I was really hopefully that will help you. Just to check, you fly in VR? About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Though Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 19, 2019 ED Team Posted November 19, 2019 Thanks, it is a difficult one, it is obvious the display driver is crashing but I am unable to reproduce on my system. # -------------- 20191118-174605 -------------- DCS/2.5.5.39384 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18362) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll Please contact support directly they maybe able to assist further https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/ thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Mike Wazowsky Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 SImilar situation... After last update. Can you gather anything from the logs? Thanks dcs.log-20230613-220919.zip F-14 VUX - VR Ultimate eXperience
Delta-canard Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 Same here. I've been fighting the computeOptimalBarriers issue, installed the last dcs patch (as rolling back didn't work) and tried single thread, reported to be immune from the other issue. Had a crash but the logs indicates this Access violation issue. Full AMD rig (5800X, 6900XT, 64 GB RAM), freshly updated drivers. Never tried overclocking (nor underclocking). Previously DCS ran fairly stable. I don't do much else an this computer as all my work is done in Linux (same machine but it lives on a different physical disk). Not much other gaming either, and mostly really ancient games. DxDiag.txt dcs.log-20230620-151235.zip
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