Tusker Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 It took me a while to figure out that the BRA calls are actually 'compass directions' and not 'compass bearings'. In the maritime parlance a 'bearing' is some number of degrees 'off of the ship's heading'. So a bearing of 90 degrees is always off the starboard beam...REGARDLESS what direction the ship is heading in. A bearing of 0 degrees is dead ahead, etc. BRA calls from AWACS seem to be 'a compass direction" from me to the threat/target. So if I get a BRA of 90 for 20, that seems to indicate that the target is 20 degrees magnetic (or true?) from me at 20 NM. Is that how it's interpreted? eric [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ----------------------- i9 9900K | Dual NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB | 64 GB DDR4 @ 2666MHz | 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM 3.5" SATA HDD | 850 Watt Power Supply with Liquid Cooling | Thrustmaster F/A-18C Hornet™ HOTAS Add-On Grip | TPR Pendular Rudders | Warthog Dual Throttles | Track IR5 | Foxx Mounts Stick and Throttle | Massdrop AKG K7XX w SBX G6 DAC | Corsair K70 RGB Platinum | G903 Lightspeed Wireless Mouse | Acer XR382CQK
KlarSnow Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 BRA in DCS from the auto awacs is usually in true heading, so will be close for NATO aircraft that have MAG displayed in the HUD/displays, but right on for russian aircraft that use true predominantly. BRA is always Bearing Range Altitude. Bearing from you to the target, turn to whatever number they told you in your HUD/HSI/whatever and you are now pointed directly at the target Range from you to the target, for NATO aircraft (IE they are talking in english) it should be in Nautical miles, for Russian aircraft (talking in russian) it should be in kilometers. Altitude, again for NATO aircraft, (speaking in english) it should be in feet for Russian it should be in meters. So in your example, if your current heading was 270 and you are in a hornet, you get the bra call you just heard 090 for 20, then the contact they told you about is 20 nautical miles directly behind you (plus or minus the few degrees difference of mag vs true) so turn to put 090 in the top of your hud, and you are now pointing straight at the contact they just told you about.
Swift. Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 Tusker, you are thinking of relative bearing (090 is starboard). The bearing from BRA is an absolute bearing. 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2
Robin_Hood Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 And it (as well as Bullseye calls) should be magnetic, although I believe it is currently not the case in DCS. 2nd French Fighter Squadron
Ziptie Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 If you would like to test for sure - you can change the heading from Magnetic to True, via the HSI for the Hornet. For the Caucasus map, there is a -6* variance, for NTTR I believe it is -12* variance, and Persian Gulf is -2* . I might be off a few degrees there, but close if not spot on. Cheers, Don (callsign Ziptie) i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
F1GHTS-ON Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Always struck me as strange that real world GCI controllers used magnetic rather than true in the last 20 years or so with their Bearing calls. Does anyone know if this is just a legacy issue from the "old & bold" who had to do it to 1960's generation of jets that still drove around on Magnetic headings? And how on earth does everyone cope when conducting Flag exercises up in Alaska or Northern Canada where the Mag variation is seriously out of phase with True......my brain hurting now so I'll stop typing :)
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Everyone (at least in the west) still flies magnetic. It has the advantage that you can always crosscheck your primary navigation system with a compass. Edited January 7, 2020 by Flamin_Squirrel
will- Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 you'll find out that things moving at mach 1 change direction fast. so those BRA calls have a high chance to be incorrect if your in a merge, close or taking your time finding targets. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync.
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