F14 can thumble?

[DLEGION]

is the thumbling in the following video even somehow possible in real F14 ?

 

the guy seemed to do it with intentions, shooting just a bit too late to hit, but was on correct direction, and then he regained control easily !

 

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[Nealius]

If the guy on his tail had any chops, the "thumbling" (what even is that?) guy would have been pumped full of 20mm.

[Swordsman422]

Looks like he cross-controlled. I don't think the real world results would have been anywhere near as positive. Supposedly Mugs McKeown used a similar maneuver in an F-4B to get a MiG-17 to overshoot, but it's apparently a hell of a ride.

[Nealius]

I think I heard that F-4 story in an episode of the Fighter Pilot Podcast.

[Psybain]

If the guy on his tail had any chops, the "thumbling" (what even is that?) guy would have been pumped full of 20mm.

I think it's supposed to be "tumbling" but the guy who made the video can't spell to save his life.

 

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[jcdata]

If you ever read somebody f-14 stories, since the plane does not have fly by wire it will depart by its own characteristics when you reach a certain point. and what some of these pilots would do is exploit these situations and come out on top of the dog fight. There are pilots cartwheeling and doing aerobatic maneuvers mainly Russian the cut the distance and have her nose pointed at the bandit. I suggest you read some of this stories out of the Hozier book and the bye-bye book.

 

The snap-roll maneuver what was just in the nose in a different plane it will cut off the distance

 

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[VF31_Subsonic]

Hozier book?

[Extranajero]

Looks like he cross-controlled. I don't think the real world results would have been anywhere near as positive. Supposedly Mugs McKeown used a similar maneuver in an F-4B to get a MiG-17 to overshoot, but it's apparently a hell of a ride.

 

Just finished reading a book on the birth of Top Gun. There was a maneuver which sounds very similar taught to the students as part of the syllabus.

 

It's still difficult to figure out exactly what's going on because the F-4 pilots are describing it in " Hey y'all, we jest kicked on the rudder and hauled back on that there pole " Chuck Yeager type language and explaining it is beyond the abilities of the author.

[power5]

A lot more is possible with the aircraft with invulnerability turned on so the wings don't fall off. The guy who posted the video does not speak english as his first language and he messed up the spelling.