premo256 Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Hi, i can´t find out, how he VOR navigation works with Viper. Not every airfield has TACAN station. I can not find any information in manual. Thanks.
premo256 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Posted January 10, 2020 Ok, so how to navigate to an airfield, which doesn´t have a TACAN station? Thanks.
QuiGon Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Ok, so how to navigate to an airfield, which doesn´t have a TACAN station? Thanks. Coordinates. That's why you have INS/GPS. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Dee-Jay Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 ... and ... more basically, visual. Pilots have charts, compass, watches and eyes. ASUSTeK ROG MAXIMUS X HERO / Intel Core i5-8600K (4.6 GHz) / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FE 12GB / 32GB DDR4 Ballistix Elite 3200 MHz / Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB / Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 1000W Platinum / Windows 10 Home 64-bit / HOTAS Cougar FSSB R1 (Warthog grip) / SIMPED / MFD Cougar / ViperGear ICP / SimShaker JetPad / Track IR 5 / Curved LED 27'' Monitor 1080p Samsung C27F396 / HP Reverb G2 VR Headset.
QuiGon Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 ... and ... more basically, visual. Pilot have eyes, watches, compass and and charts. Indeed, although that can get difficult in IFR conditions. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Dee-Jay Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Indeed, although that can get difficult in IFR conditions. As you said : INS/GPS ... radar vectors, TACAN, ILS, GNSS. ASUSTeK ROG MAXIMUS X HERO / Intel Core i5-8600K (4.6 GHz) / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FE 12GB / 32GB DDR4 Ballistix Elite 3200 MHz / Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB / Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 1000W Platinum / Windows 10 Home 64-bit / HOTAS Cougar FSSB R1 (Warthog grip) / SIMPED / MFD Cougar / ViperGear ICP / SimShaker JetPad / Track IR 5 / Curved LED 27'' Monitor 1080p Samsung C27F396 / HP Reverb G2 VR Headset.
Delareon Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Dont forget you can also use the TACAN of another Airfield to find yours. Just measure Distance and Radial and then use your HSI. As statet by Dee-Jay there are plenty of options, you should be creative in usage and do a proper flight planning. 1
Bouli306 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 There is actually a method to convert VOR to TACAN and the other way around. If you convert VOR to tacan you will get distance but no bearing: TCN VOR 001X 96200 001Y 108800 002X 96300 002Y 108900 003X 96400 003Y 109000 004X 96500 004Y 109100 005X 96600 005Y 109200 006X 96700 006Y 109300 007X 96800 007Y 109400 008X 96900 008Y 109500 009X 97000 009Y 109600 010X 97100 010Y 109700 011X 97200 011Y 109800 012X 97300 012Y 109900 013X 97400 013Y 110000 014X 97500 014Y 110100 015X 97600 015Y 110200 016X 97700 016Y 110300 017X 10800 017Y 10805 018X 10810 018Y 10815 019X 10820 019Y 10825 020X 10830 020Y 10835 021X 10840 021Y 10845 022X 10850 022Y 10855 023X 10860 023Y 10865 024X 10870 024Y 10875 025X 10880 025Y 10885 026X 10890 026Y 10895 027X 10900 027Y 10905 028X 10910 028Y 10915 029X 10920 029Y 10925 030X 10930 030Y 10935 031X 10940 031Y 10945 032X 10950 032Y 10955 033X 10960 033Y 10965 034X 10970 034Y 10975 035X 10980 035Y 10985 036X 10990 036Y 10995 037X 11000 037Y 11005 038X 11010 038Y 11015 039X 11020 039Y 11025 040X 11030 040Y 11035 041X 11040 041Y 11045 042X 11050 042Y 11055 043X 11060 043Y 11065 044X 11070 044Y 11075 045X 11080 045Y 11085 046X 11090 046Y 11095 047X 11100 047Y 11105 048X 11110 048Y 11115 049X 11120 049Y 11125 050X 11130 050Y 11135 051X 11140 051Y 11145 052X 11150 052Y 11155 053X 11160 053Y 11165 054X 11170 054Y 11175 055X 11180 055Y 11185 056X 11190 056Y 11195 057X 11200 057Y 11205 058X 11210 058Y 11215 059X 11220 059Y 11225 060X 102100 060Y 114700 061X 102200 061Y 114800 062X 102300 062Y 114900 063X 102400 063Y 115000 064X 115100 064Y 102500 065X 115200 065Y 102600 066X 115300 066Y 102700 067X 115400 067Y 102800 068X 115500 068Y 102900 069X 115600 069Y 103000 070X 11230 070Y 11235 071X 11240 071Y 11245 072X 11250 072Y 11255 073X 11260 073Y 11265 074X 11270 074Y 11275 075X 11280 075Y 11285 076X 11290 076Y 11295 077X 11300 077Y 11305 078X 11310 078Y 11315 079X 11320 079Y 11325 080X 11330 080Y 11335 081X 11340 081Y 11345 082X 11350 082Y 11355 083X 11360 083Y 11365 084X 11370 084Y 11375 085X 11380 085Y 11385 086X 11390 086Y 11395 087X 11400 087Y 11405 088X 11410 088Y 11415 089X 11420 089Y 11425 090X 11430 090Y 11435 091X 11440 091Y 11445 092X 11450 092Y 11455 093X 11460 093Y 11465 094X 11470 094Y 11475 095X 11480 095Y 11485 096X 11490 096Y 11495 097X 11500 097Y 11505 098X 11510 098Y 11515 099X 11520 099Y 11525 100X 11530 100Y 11535 101X 11540 101Y 11545 102X 11550 102Y 11555 103X 11560 103Y 11565 104X 11570 104Y 11575 105X 11580 105Y 11585 106X 11590 106Y 11595 107X 11600 107Y 11605 108X 11610 108Y 11615 109X 11620 109Y 11625 110X 11630 110Y 11635 111X 11640 111Y 11645 112X 11650 112Y 11655 113X 11660 113Y 11665 114X 11670 114Y 11675 115X 11680 115Y 11685 116X 11690 116Y 11695 117X 11700 117Y 11705 118X 11710 118Y 11715 119X 11720 119Y 11725 120X 11730 120Y 11735 121X 11740 121Y 11745 122X 11750 122Y 11755 123X 11760 123Y 11765 124X 11770 124Y 11775 125X 11780 125Y 11785 126X 11790 126Y 11795 1 1
drPhibes Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 There is actually a method to convert VOR to TACAN and the other way around. If you convert VOR to tacan you will get distance but no bearing: You are confusing VOR and DME. VOR is completely incompatible with TACAN. A TACAN receiver can interrogate a DME beacon and vice versa, giving the range between the two.
Bouli306 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 You are confusing VOR and DME. VOR is completely incompatible with TACAN. A TACAN receiver can interrogate a DME beacon and vice versa, giving the range between the two. Okay, I guess that was what I was saying... You convert the freq of the VOR and that is why you get the DME only readout. It works the other way aroud also..
Frederf Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 There are co-located VOR-DME facilities. A standard VOR station doesn't have DME service. DME is the range component of TACAN (e.g. all TACAN have DME service). If, and that's an if, the VOR is a VOR-DME then there usually (always?) exists some TACAN channel number associated with that VOR's frequency. So you see a 102.3 MHz VOR-DME you know you can tune your TACAN receiver to 62X and the ~1000MHz frequency for that DME service will supply your TACAN with distance info. ILSs are also channelized. When you enter 110.3 MHz that's the localizer frequency but the glideslope receiver knows to look up a different associated frequency to get the glideslope signal. The frequency pairing is set by rule. That ILS channel is 40X even though you'd get nothing from it by tuning a TACAN receiver to 40X since no TACAN service frequencies from that channel are in use.
drPhibes Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 Okay, I guess that was what I was saying... You convert the freq of the VOR and that is why you get the DME only readout. It works the other way aroud also.. The list you posted is a mix of DME reply frequencies, Localizer frequencies and VOR/VDB frequencies. Everything before channel 17X is a DME reply freq., between 18X and 56Y every even channel number is a localizer frequency (with the odd numbers being VOR), 60X-69Y are all DME replies, and 70X and up is VOR/VDB.
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