Bob1943 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 I am about to order a TM Warthog HOTAS system today. However, the large base plate (10.71" x 9.13") for the stick is way too large to mount on my home-made sim chair setup. Does anyone know if there is a smaller base plate available for the stick?
norbot Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Virpil has one, but I don't know, if this is what you're looking for (https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-desk-mount-adapter-warbrd-base.html).
zcaa0g Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Yeah, the small form factor Virpil base is only around 5" x 5", so about half the dimensions on the standard Warthog base.
VpR81 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) I´d suggest the universal base plate from Virpil. I use two of them, one for my WarBRD base and one for my TM base Edited January 31, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Bob1943 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Posted January 31, 2020 I need those circular slots on the new plate to match up to the screw holes on the bottom of the TM stick. I found this at monstertechusa.com (picture attached). I can use those 2 holes on the rectangular end to secure the plate to the wood platform that my current CH stick is mounted on. At little pricey at $37, but I don't think the Virpil unit will work like this one will.
BlacleyCole Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Do you really need a baseplate or can you remove the large base plate and mount directly to the base as designed BlackeyCole 20years usaf XP-11. Dcs 2.5OB Acer predator laptop/ i7 7720, 2.4ghz, 32 gb ddr4 ram, 500gb ssd,1tb hdd,nvidia 1080 8gb vram New FlightSim Blog at https://blackeysblog.wordpress.com. Go visit it and leave me feedback and or comments so I can make it better. A new post every Friday.
Bob1943 Posted February 1, 2020 Author Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) Do you really need a baseplate or can you remove the large base plate and mount directly to the base as designed The base that I will be mounting the stick to is a small wood platform connected to a vertical steel rod. See the picture link below to see how my current CH Fighterstick is attached. Since I use a center stick position for my sim chair, the stock TM base plate is too large to fit between my legs when sitting in the chair. My thought is to screw the Monstertech plate to the small wood platform for the CH stick (using the 2 screw holes on the rectangular extension of the Monstertech plate), so that the circular part of the new metal base (the part with the stick) would protrude beyond the wood platform. Picture is attached as to how this would look. https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=226033&d=1580266579 Edited February 1, 2020 by Bob1943
BlacleyCole Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 Remove the baseplate and mont the wh base directly to your existing setup without the baseplate that is how Mose setups for the center work. BlackeyCole 20years usaf XP-11. Dcs 2.5OB Acer predator laptop/ i7 7720, 2.4ghz, 32 gb ddr4 ram, 500gb ssd,1tb hdd,nvidia 1080 8gb vram New FlightSim Blog at https://blackeysblog.wordpress.com. Go visit it and leave me feedback and or comments so I can make it better. A new post every Friday.
Bob1943 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 Yep, that would be an option to consider. However, it would require drilling precisely located (and vertically aligned) holes through a 3/4" piece of plywood and finding some extended length screws to match the threading of the fastener holes in the stick base. One feature that I did like about the Monstertech plate was that the circular mounting slots do allow for some rotational adjustment of the stick to provide a personalized ergonomic feel. Guess I could cut slots in my existing wood base, but I am not a woodworker - would have to take it to a wood-working shop. Still waiting on delivery of the Warthog HOTAS, so once I get it I will have to do some experimenting with different layouts to see what might work best and be the easiest solution. Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.
VpR81 Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Yep, that would be an option to consider. However, it would require drilling precisely located (and vertically aligned) holes through a 3/4" piece of plywood and finding some extended length screws to match the threading of the fastener holes in the stick base What you could do instead is mount your TM base to the universal baseplate i mentioned above, then mount it to your flight sim pit. Drill 4 holes that a slightly bigger than the holes on the plate to have some tolerance. 3/4" is about 19mm, the base plate has about 3mm. 25 or 30mm screws will match and should be pretty easy to get on your local hardware store. Edited February 2, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Bob1943 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Yes, that is a good option. It looks like the 4 centered holes for the TM base are countersunk, so there would not be any protruding screw-heads under the plate that would prevent it from fitting flush on top of my plywood platform. Is that correct? Looks like I would be able to use the same original screws that fastened the stock TM plate to the stick. Opps: I just checked their shipping costs - 35.95 Euros to ship a 9.95 part! Might just go down to a local machine shop and pay them to cut a similar size piece of metal and drill the holes for me. Edited February 2, 2020 by Bob1943
VpR81 Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Yes, that´s correct. You can place the base plate on a flat surface without any issues. You can also use the original TM screws, they fit perfectly. I for myself purchased new screws that are slightly longer but still fit, as i find the TM screws a little bit short. The screws i used are M4 x 7 mm and need a hex key instead of a screwdriver, as you can see on the attached pictures. edit: Well yes, Virpils shipping costs are horrible. Especially overseas, but even to germany (wich is around the corner compared to north america) they take 20€ for shipping. I made sure to have at least items for 60-80€ in the cart everytime i ordered something from them, so it´s worth the shipping costs. But if you don´t need anything else than a 10 or 20€ item it´s realy a pain to order from Virpil. But their products are state of the art, no doubt. Edited February 2, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Bob1943 Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 Excellent pictures. Yes, that design would work. I'll have to see what a local shop will charge to cut a square piece of metal and just drill some holes in it for me. Thanks again.
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VpR81 Posted February 3, 2020 Posted February 3, 2020 Glad i could help you out. Good luck with your project! Cheers Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
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