Notso Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Hi all, I apologize in advance for the dumb questions and if its been already addressed before, please share a link.... I recently bought the Cougar MFD pack to add to my VR setup so I can use the buttons rather than having to use a mouse to manipulate them. My question is how easy are they to set up and configure? Do I need to map all the buttons manually or will they auto map to DCS once plugged in. Also, if I switch back and forth between a Hornet (3 MFD) and the F-16 (2x MFD), will each module need to be reset each time, or can I save it to the Module profile like I do the HOTAS mapping? Any other setup tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
Baldrick33 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 For the F18 & F16 DCS should manage everything for you and auto map all the buttons. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
VpR81 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) For the Hornet and the F-16, MFD 1 & 2 are auto mapped. For the Hornet, the top right switch (SYM) is not mapped for MFD 1 & 2, as the Hornet does not have that function for both DDI's. So you have one switch/2 buttons per MFD for individual use. I mapped them with A-A/A-G mode for MFD 1 and dispenser switch up/down for MFD 2. Not sure about the MPCD, as my second MFD pack is not ordered yet... Edited March 23, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Notso Posted March 24, 2020 Author Posted March 24, 2020 Thanks all for the info. Now I just need to figure out how to mount them to my Playseat. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
Baldrick33 Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 For the Hornet and the F-16, MFD 1 & 2 are auto mapped. For the Hornet, the top right switch (SYM) is not mapped for MFD 1 & 2, as the Hornet does not have that function for both DDI's. So you have one switch/2 buttons per MFD for individual use. I mapped them with A-A/A-G mode for MFD 1 and dispenser switch up/down for MFD 2. Not sure about the MPCD, as my second MFD pack is not ordered yet...I only have 2 MFDs so I used the top right switch on the 2nd as a modifier so I could switch it between the 2nd DDI and MPCD. Of course I had to individually map all those buttons but it works quite well. I am not sure what DCS would do if it found a third MFD. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
VirusAM Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 I only have 2 MFDs so I used the top right switch on the 2nd as a modifier so I could switch it between the 2nd DDI and MPCD. Of course I had to individually map all those buttons but it works quite well. I am not sure what DCS would do if it found a third MFD. You can map a third and forth also. The only limitation is with target where you can map only 2 mfd. so the third and forth one will be mapped as dx devices R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra, VKB Stecs Max, Winwing F-16EX Throttle, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat
VpR81 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Thanks all for the info. Now I just need to figure out how to mount them to my Playseat. Running into that problem as well, as there is no frame r anything on my simrig to mount them. I just ordered the MFD mounts from Monstertech: https://www.monstertech.de/en/product/mfd-tablet-mount/ and a 600mm aluminium profile to attach them: https://www.smt-montagetechnik.de/produkte/2547n.htm I'll thread the longside tube holes with M8 and drill fitting holes into the bottom plate of my rig, voilá. Check out the MT homepage for stands and stuff to get some inspiration. That aluminium profile stuff is easy to handle, very versatile, easy to get and relative cheap. It'll propably provide a DIY solution for you as well. Edited March 29, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
Kingsly Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 How do you like the cougars in VR? Does it become relatively second nature to blindly find the correct buttons once muscle memory kicks in? I’d love something like this.
Baldrick33 Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 Today's experiment was to map every mfd button to be a left mouse click and the corner buttons to be a mouse wheel up/down. So now I can operate the mfds by looking at the button I want in VR and pressing a button on the mfd in the vicinity of where the actual button should be. If I miss and press the wrong one it doesn't matter! After a quick go I think I may be onto something :) 1 AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
VpR81 Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Today's experiment was to map every mfd button to be a left mouse click and the corner buttons to be a mouse wheel up/down. So now I can operate the mfds by looking at the button I want in VR and pressing a button on the mfd in the vicinity of where the actual button should be. If I miss and press the wrong one it doesn't matter! After a quick go I think I may be onto something :) That is actually a pretty good idea! Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
VirusAM Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 Today's experiment was to map every mfd button to be a left mouse click and the corner buttons to be a mouse wheel up/down. So now I can operate the mfds by looking at the button I want in VR and pressing a button on the mfd in the vicinity of where the actual button should be. If I miss and press the wrong one it doesn't matter! After a quick go I think I may be onto something :) This is a big idea...wow R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra, VKB Stecs Max, Winwing F-16EX Throttle, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat
eduwushu Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 On 3/24/2020 at 10:45 AM, Baldrick33 said: I only have 2 MFDs so I used the top right switch on the 2nd as a modifier so I could switch it between the 2nd DDI and MPCD. Of course I had to individually map all those buttons but it works quite well. I am not sure what DCS would do if it found a third MFD. Hi Baldrick! How did you mapped that button as a modifier to alternate between 2nd ddi and ampcd? Is through DCS input mappings?
Baldrick33 Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, eduwushu said: Hi Baldrick! How did you mapped that button as a modifier to alternate between 2nd ddi and ampcd? Is through DCS input mappings? Yes, just added the switch as a modifier in the controls settings in DCS 1 AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
shu77 Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 On 4/2/2020 at 8:40 AM, Baldrick33 said: Today's experiment was to map every mfd button to be a left mouse click and the corner buttons to be a mouse wheel up/down. So now I can operate the mfds by looking at the button I want in VR and pressing a button on the mfd in the vicinity of where the actual button should be. If I miss and press the wrong one it doesn't matter! After a quick go I think I may be onto something I really like that idea, I am about to take the plunge into VR and was wondering how the current MFD set up would transition Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools
eduwushu Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 16 hours ago, Baldrick33 said: Yes, just added the switch as a modifier in the controls settings in DCS Oh so you mean that you use as key binding for AMPCD Btn1 = MFD2 SYM BTN + MFD2 BTN1? Got it!
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