mac22 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) Been running the v2 reverb with the Viper - tried it initially with no tweaks - and it was running good with a FPS of 75-90 - have now tried it with reprojection on (know its running as the fps locks to 45) - but strangely while the game is running overall smooth 1) if I move my head quickly while say in a menu and very occasionally in game (usually looking up and to the right) will sometimes get some judders - strangely this was not present while I had reprojection off? (the fps jumped around but no real judder) - any ideas how to solve? 2)Getting some really bad flickering on the load screens and also if I try and change the control settings ingame…….. Edited March 29, 2020 by mac22
sirrah Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Not sure about your 1st question As far as I know the bad flickering on the loading screen is normal.. well, normal... I have it too at least with my Reverb (During the loading screen, my fps drops to about 1 or 2 fps. Fortunately ingame it's ok :)) System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
Gunnars Driver Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Been running the v2 reverb with the Viper - tried it initially with no tweaks - and it was running good with a FPS of 75-90 - have now tried it with reprojection on (know its running as the fps locks to 45) - but strangely while the game is running overall smooth 1) if I move my head quickly while say in a menu and very occasionally in game (usually looking up and to the right) will sometimes get some judders - strangely this was not present while I had reprojection off? (the fps jumped around but no real judder) - any ideas how to solve? 2)Getting some really bad flickering on the load screens and also if I try and change the control settings ingame…….. The reprojection let the game produce 45 fps ( thereby seeing 45fps in DCS fps counter) and in between each frame, reprojection extrapolates one frame using the picture movement speed as the input data. This is a calculation based om the assumption of ”what is going to happen” so it is not perfect and it has a harder job predicting if head movememt is quick and/or has a angular acceleration. I think WMR /Reverb reprojection is good. I also have Oculus Rift since they came out and I experience a lot cleaner picture with reverb + reprojection then Oculus in ASW. If you deselect reprojection there will only be real DCS calculated pictures: i.e no predicted ”im between pictures” so you will not have that problem. I use auto which give me reprojection of when I have 90fps, and rejorojection if between 90 amd 45. For me, thats the best setting. [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
Wali763 Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 No sure about this (since I didnt do extensive testing) but I have a feeling about this. In some (heavy missions) I have a lot of red spikes in fpsVR (frametime>22ms) in the CPU-frametines, sometines even blanks (no rendered frames) for a moment. In such missions I have also judders, some even very bad. In other missions like Hornet-Caucasus-Freeflight-mission I habe CPU-frametimes constantly around 10ms and no judders. I think (at least my) judders are CPU-related. Overclocking did not help. Right now Im using Steam-motionreprojection. Maybe Motionreprojection takes up quite a bit of CPU-perf and therefore causes the judders. But as I said. This is just a feeling and I need to do more tests.
speed-of-heat Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 sounds like you are running 2.5.6 ... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
mac22 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 No sure about this (since I didnt do extensive testing) but I have a feeling about this. In some (heavy missions) I have a lot of red spikes in fpsVR (frametime>22ms) in the CPU-frametines, sometines even blanks (no rendered frames) for a moment. In such missions I have also judders, some even very bad. In other missions like Hornet-Caucasus-Freeflight-mission I habe CPU-frametimes constantly around 10ms and no judders. I think (at least my) judders are CPU-related. Overclocking did not help. Right now Im using Steam-motionreprojection. Maybe Motionreprojection takes up quite a bit of CPU-perf and therefore causes the judders. But as I said. This is just a feeling and I need to do more tests. running the WMR option file reprojection (where you remove the \\) - but think will try it set to auto or off - see if it helps with the judders.... also I thought the steam reprojection option - even when set to on does nothing with a WMR headset? - assume you are changing the option in the steam vr menu?
mac22 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 sounds like you are running 2.5.6 ... yes running with the latest version (forces to download before I run it) - why? is VR performance bad in it?
speed-of-heat Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Yes it is, there are several threads on this... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
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