TGP Slaving to Waypoint

[TomCatMucDe]

Hi,

 

I have been struggling to slave the TGP to the waypoint (before the latest update, not sure if anything changed) Has this been fixed? Is there any worksround?

 

Thanks!

[imacken]

Can't say I have any problem with that. TGP slaves to steer points for me.

[TomCatMucDe]

but how can you do it? for me the TGP is boresighted and cant slave it to the WP.

[kengou]

but how can you do it? for me the TGP is boresighted and cant slave it to the WP.

 

Are you in Ccrp mode?

[imacken]

Yes, sorry, you need to be in CCRP mode for it to work. Don't know if that will change during EA or not.

[ebabil]

In ccrp mode, when i touch slew button, selected wp goes like crazy

[Deano87]

In ccrp mode, when i touch slew button, selected wp goes like crazy

 

Make sure TGP MFD is SOI, not HUD.

[ebabil]

Ok I will check that.

If i accidentally do that, is there a way to go back original waypoint?

[ebabil]

I made a quick test, even tgp is selected as soi (white square around its mfd) and other screen is not selected but showing hsd, steer points were manipulated

[silverholt]

I've been having the same issues for a month! I cannot get CCRP to work. CCRP is selected in GBU12 profile and TGP is SOI. The waypoint moves on HSD but the HUD cursor is stuck at boresight. When HUD is SOI any cursor movement brings the TGP back to boresight. There is a CCRP designation line but that is stuck at a indefinite constant around 82 degress not aligned with the HUD cursor. It's driving me nuts!!

[stevierof]

I have had the same issue. TD box fixed in hud, but able to slave the tgp around.

Doesn’t happen all the time though. No way I could reset it back. Changing master mode neither.

 

But what really breaks my nerves is the steerpoint keeps getting manipulated by slaving the tgp. Way to often I reset my tgp and then the steerpoint is lost forever.

 

No snowplow or cursor zero ?

[Deano87]

I made a quick test, even tgp is selected as soi (white square around its mfd) and other screen is not selected but showing hsd, steer points were manipulated

 

Yes Steer points will be manipulated. Thats how it works currently, this is WIP and will change once the proper steerpoint/SPI system is finished.

[Deano87]

I've been having the same issues for a month! I cannot get CCRP to work. CCRP is selected in GBU12 profile and TGP is SOI. The waypoint moves on HSD but the HUD cursor is stuck at boresight. When HUD is SOI any cursor movement brings the TGP back to boresight. There is a CCRP designation line but that is stuck at a indefinite constant around 82 degress not aligned with the HUD cursor. It's driving me nuts!!

 

The jet must have at least one pre-defined steerpoint thats set in the mission editior. It sounds like you're trying to fly a jet with no steerpoints. With the current WIP way ED have the steerpoint/SPI system working that doesn't work as they are one and the same thing. No steerpoint = no SPI = No ability to plan attacks to a point etc. In the mission editor give the jet at least 1 pre-planned steerpoint/waypoint and then once airborne set it to AG Master mode, Set the delivery mode to CCRP and the TGP screen to SOI and it should work. Yes you will be moving the steerpoint as you slave the TGP around but thats because the aircraft treats the steerpoint as the SPI.

 

All of the above is subject to change when the new Steerpoint/SPI implementation comes out.

Edited April 19, 2020 by Deano87

[Rocho]

I have this issue as well and I'm sure that I have a steering point defined. I have been learning CCRP bombing with a friend and I suffer this problem but he doesn't, so I can't use this bombing mode at all.

[Deano87]

I have this issue as well and I'm sure that I have a steering point defined. I have been learning CCRP bombing with a friend and I suffer this problem but he doesn't, so I can't use this bombing mode at all.

 

The steerpoint has to be made in the mission editor, it cannot be programmed into the jet once in the sim. Also TGP only slaves to steerpoint if you're in CCRP.

[silverholt]

Then what about on MP servers where other F-16 pilots say they have no issues using CCRP? I'm tired of being blown off and told its because steerpoints, or I'm not in CCRP mode, etc. I have watched video after video, read the guide, etc. CCRP just flat out wont work for me.

[imacken]

Then what about on MP servers where other F-16 pilots say they have no issues using CCRP? I'm tired of being blown off and told its because steerpoints, or I'm not in CCRP mode, etc. I have watched video after video, read the guide, etc. CCRP just flat out wont work for me.

 

CCRP is WIP. Just accept it.

[silverholt]

Yes, master.

[Mental_Blade_Stall]

CCRP is WIP. Just accept it.

 

I'm not one to complain because I knew I was getting EA but that's a cop out. I'd be o.k. using a work around but even that doesn't always work. I lase a target and my target point is 200 to 300 meters beyond where my MFD is lasing. To no surprise it lases the point past the target and not what I'm looking at in the MFD so the bombs attack a random piece of turf. I may be out of context but seems like he was just asking for a little assistance to enjoy what he has bought and not a just deal with it answer.

[Deano87]

I'm not one to complain because I knew I was getting EA but that's a cop out. I'd be o.k. using a work around but even that doesn't always work. I lase a target and my target point is 200 to 300 meters beyond where my MFD is lasing. To no surprise it lases the point past the target and not what I'm looking at in the MFD so the bombs attack a random piece of turf. I may be out of context but seems like he was just asking for a little assistance to enjoy what he has bought and not a just deal with it answer.

 

Providing your INS is aligned properly it sounds like you're suffering from this bug.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269191

 

Note that it shouldn't effect where the TGP lases but only should effect the Target location indicator in the HUD. Depending on QNH, it will either appear above or below where it should be, making it look Long or Short. Still even with the erroneous idiciation in the HUD I can lase targets and hit exactly where my laser is locked with no issues.

[JABO2009]

The jet must have at least one pre-defined steerpoint thats set in the mission editior. It sounds like you're trying to fly a jet with no steerpoints. With the current WIP way ED have the steerpoint/SPI system working that doesn't work as they are one and the same thing. No steerpoint = no SPI = No ability to plan attacks to a point etc. In the mission editor give the jet at least 1 pre-planned steerpoint/waypoint and then once airborne set it to AG Master mode, Set the delivery mode to CCRP and the TGP screen to SOI and it should work. Yes you will be moving the steerpoint as you slave the TGP around but thats because the aircraft treats the steerpoint as the SPI.

 

All of the above is subject to change when the new Steerpoint/SPI implementation comes out.

 

 

Does this mean in MP on a server I can't actually laser Bomb with TGP if there are no preset F16 Waypoints ? :(

[Deano87]

Does this mean in MP on a server I can't actually laser Bomb with TGP if there are no preset F16 Waypoints ? :(

 

Yes. But Hopefully most mission designers know this and add 1 point that you can move around as you wish as a SPI/SP

 

And obviously this is a temporary situation until the SPI implementation is finished.

[Deano87]

Yes, master.

 

Silverholt, I've PMed you. I can get you sorted out.

[imacken]

Silverholt, I've PMed you. I can get you sorted out.

 

Why don't you share your solution. I'm sure there are people here that would appreciate it.

[Deano87]

Why don't you share your solution. I'm sure there are people here that would appreciate it.

 

Solution? CCRP/TGP/LGB works fine for me, so I want to have a private discussion with Silverholt about what they are doing that is different from me so we can figure out whats causing it. I will post any useful findings.