[NO BUG]MAV-F (IR MAV) + TPOD ---- difficulty controlling

[SDsc0rch]

i was flying online last night with a buddy - i took all IR-MAVs and a TPOD

he took MAVs + GBUs

we both had difficulty manipulating the TDC slew

i was trying to use the TPOD to cue the mavericks - ie.. find the target with the TPOD and then slewing the MAV to the target identified and designated by the TPOD

but it was not intuitive

you couldn't go back and forth between the MAV and the TPOD vis a vis TDC slew control

also, i couldn't ever get the MAV triangle off the HUD

in short, i got frustrated and just wanted to "start over" but i couldn't

 

in summary... we should be able to switch SOI between TPOD and MAVs and not have any difficulty or confusion

 

i apologize if this isn't a bug and its just the way the real jet works

 

(( i looked in the three latest pages of bugs and haven't seen any posts on this subject - again, apologies if this has actually been covered ))

[maxTRX]

i was flying online last night with a buddy - i took all IR-MAVs and a TPOD

he took MAVs + GBUs

we both had difficulty manipulating the TDC slew

i was trying to use the TPOD to cue the mavericks - ie.. find the target with the TPOD and then slewing the MAV to the target identified and designated by the TPOD

but it was not intuitive

you couldn't go back and forth between the MAV and the TPOD vis a vis TDC slew control

also, i couldn't ever get the MAV triangle off the HUD

in short, i got frustrated and just wanted to "start over" but i couldn't

 

in summary... we should be able to switch SOI between TPOD and MAVs and not have any difficulty or confusion

 

i apologize if this isn't a bug and its just the way the real jet works

 

(( i looked in the three latest pages of bugs and haven't seen any posts on this subject - again, apologies if this has actually been covered ))

 

The way it works here, it's easier for me to if I stay on Tpod primarily. Fly in general direction of your target. Put your TDC on tpod, find the target (that's a separate subject;)), lock it. If you haven't uncaged the IrMAV beforehand switch your SOI to Mav screen and the mav will uncage and slew. Go back to Tpod. Now you can play with it. Put it in Ptrack on your target. If I have to move the TDC I re-designate. The Mav will update. One thing I noticed here, the Mav locks on the target sooner if its FOV is set to NAR. Once it locks and you're in range you get a firing solution... rifle.

I hope it makes sense.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Gripes323

[SDsc0rch]

okay... i'll give it a try that way

maybe that's the way its supposed to work : )

[Darcwaynard]

Once you lock your first target via TGP, switch SOI to mav and uncage. Then switch SOI back to TGP you should be able fire all 4 mavs with TGP as SOI. It's one of those things where you just need to learn the tricks to make it work. Its hella easier than doing the dance in the Hog that's for sure.

 

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[SDsc0rch]

oh wow - that's really interesting

 

i never got into the A-10 --- A-G is kinda new to me...

[SDsc0rch]

yeah no... just tried it --- this is reported as NO BUG

i dispute that - i can't designate the MAV by using the TPOD

i can't just SOI over to the MAV and control it from there

desig the target from the TPOD, the MAV doesn't slew to the target

only workaround is to completely turn off the TPOD and use the MAV only : /

[maxTRX]

yeah no... just tried it --- this is reported as NO BUG

i dispute that - i can't designate the MAV by using the TPOD

i can't just SOI over to the MAV and control it from there

desig the target from the TPOD, the MAV doesn't slew to the target

only workaround is to completely turn off the TPOD and use the MAV only : /

 

Once you have it designated on Tpod then SOI to Mav (uncage if it doesn't snap to your tgt.), if the Ir Mav doesn't react then something is not right on your side... I think. Have you checked your key assignments (cage/uncage)?

It does work in this build, at least on my rig... and few others:)

[Svsmokey]

Yeah , i have no probs designating/locking with tpod and -65f's as posted .

[SDsc0rch]

Once you have it designated on Tpod then SOI to Mav (uncage if it doesn't snap to your tgt.), if the Ir Mav doesn't react then something is not right on your side... I think. Have you checked your key assignments (cage/uncage)?

It does work in this build, at least on my rig... and few others:)

 

 

okay.. will try again

i know cage/uncage is mapped - it works on the TPOD

[SDsc0rch]

Yeah , i have no probs designating/locking with tpod and -65f's as posted .

 

 

thx ---- kinda seems like its borked (?)

difficulty with TDC control when you switch back and forth

maybe i'm missing something here?

 

but it should be more intuitive

i'd like to challenge the [NO BUG] status that has been assigned to this report

anyone know how i can do that??

[Darcwaynard]

Dont forget you have to press and hold tdc depress if you want to slew the mav.

 

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[SDsc0rch]

i've changed the setting in OPTIONS where i don't have to do that - i just move it normal

when the TPOD is not in operation, i can control MAV just fine

 

ED, instead of just dismissing this bug report, why don't you EXPLAIN what i'm doing wrong?!?

[Svsmokey]

Soi to tpod -slew , then designate .

Soi to mav-uncage

Soi back to tpod and leave it there

Rifle 1st mav

Slew and designate tpod only to rifle each remaining mav.

 

Try resetting the mav slew/designate to realistic

 

For the tpod , you do not have to hold the designate button while slewing .

Edited April 27, 2020 by Svsmokey

[pimp]

It's not a bug. If you designated a target with the TPod, the Mav won't slew manually. You have to undesignate the TPod in order to slew the Mav.

[SDsc0rch]

Soi to tpod -slew , then designate .

Soi to mav-uncage

Soi back to tpod and leave it there

Rifle 1st mav

Slew and designate tpod only to rifle each remaining mav.

 

Try resetting the mav slew/designate to realistic

 

For the tpod , you do not have to hold the designate button while slewing .

 

thx - i'll try this "again"

 

i honestly thought i was doing that ----- when i desig'd with the TPOD, the mav did indeed slew, but NOT entirely to the target - it was slightly off - and nothing i did could get it to slew ON TO the target

 

again, the operation here seems buggy

[pimp]

You might need to create a new post about the slewing of the Mav is bugged. Because I do agree with that. It does snap to objects not even close to what you're trying to lock on to. However, working with the TPod, the Mav works fine.

[SDsc0rch]

you might be right

i'll try people's suggestions again (later tonight? tomorrow? i've got a life...)

and if its still wonky (( other ppl seem to be reporting difficulty also - so i'm pretty sure its not all just "me" )) i'll repost with a different name - like you suggest

thx

[maxTRX]

thx - i'll try this "again"

 

i honestly thought i was doing that ----- when i desig'd with the TPOD, the mav did indeed slew, but NOT entirely to the target - it was slightly off - and nothing i did could get it to slew ON TO the target

 

again, the operation here seems buggy

 

Also, every time you have your target designated and Mav is on it or 'around' it, change Mav's FOV to narrow. It helps. You don't have to switch SOI from Tpod, Mav has priority.

Another thing, if you have to correct your lock on Tpod and you slew around, make sure to press the desig. button (TDC). The Mav will jump over... at least it should;)

Stabilize ypur flight path. If you wobble your wings the Mav's seeker will move a little, it 'should' always return to the target.

[Darcwaynard]

 

This is a really good video on using the TGP and Mav F in tandem.

 

If the maverick doesnt uncage automatically when you sensor select the mav page you can manually uncage and it should snap to the designated target. If you slew the TGP and hit TDC depress on another target the mav will snap to the new point. There shouldn't really be any reason to slew the mav manually if you are using the TGP. Hope this helps

 

Also I could post a track later of how I quickly fire on 4 different targets using the TGP with Mav Fs.

 

Cheers

 

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[SDsc0rch]

thx guys - will attempt

 

@darc.. i'm most definitely NOT seeing that behavior