CQB4Me Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't want to start another poll, ect. And I know that the devs have plenty to do with the KA-50, and the A-10 and Apache over the next couple of years. But, I was just thinking of some of the real challenges (and fun) of learning to master all the various aspects of flying the Osprey with DCS's AFM. I have seen videos, and interviews of Osprey pilots who say that it isn't a great plane nor a great helo, but together it can do things that no other helo or fixed wing plane can (more weight carried for longer distances, etc). It sounds like they are in the works to adding a "basic" defense capablity to them, ie some sort of rotary gun either in the nose or the "hell hole" (part of the aircraft where troops would have fast-roped down). I have fond memories of playing LB2 and escorting Blackhawks in to rescue downed pilots, ect. It would be a pretty cool day, when over multiplayer, a mission could be set up where Apaches, are escorting V-22's in for a mission, with A-10s clearing the way, and maybe KA-50's out prowling for the downed pilot/ rescue force? So, what do you think? Maybe add the Osprey somewhere in the first "dozen" aircraft that DCS releases? Thanks in advance for any responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I've actually believed that Osprey will be in-game anyway. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQB4Me Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 So, Shamandgg, are you thinking that its going to be player-flyable or just modeled "in-game" for eye-candy? I looked back at some of the screenshots (the ones with a bunch of the aircraft circled around) and didn't see it. Either way, I guess we'll just have to see what happens. I have a feeling that I'm going to be pretty busy "mastering" :p the KA-50 and the subsequent aircraft that DCS releases. It was just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yes, I think Osprey is a nice non-flyable aircraft addition, but I doubt that ED models an flyable Osprey, because is a relatively new aircraft and many aspect should be secret. Regards!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 non-flyable Osprey rather. I have flyable Osprey in FSX :P - well it is not too realistic in terms of flight model and operations, but fun to play with. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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britgliderpilot Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yes, I think Osprey is a nice non-flyable aircraft addition, but I doubt that ED models an flyable Osprey, because is a relatively new aircraft and many aspect should be secret. Regards!! Concur. Even if it's not secret, it'd probably be a real pain to reproduce. Just the thought of modelling the control laws for transition between rotorborne and wingborne flight makes my head hurt. I'm sure it's not impossible . . . but bear in mind that the Osprey is first and foremost a transport aircraft. It is not, and probably never will be, a gunship. And DCS does include the word Combat. If ED ever start a DTS series, I'm sure it'll be up on the list . . . http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Isn't that thing like a death trap in the air. Maybe it was just the case of the media making mountain out of booger? CQB4Me, You can fly the Osprey in X-plane demo. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Feedback Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Isn't that thing like a death trap in the air. Maybe it was just the case of the media making mountain out of booger? CQB4Me, You can fly the Osprey in X-plane demo. Only if 2 engines fail, but that is impossible, will never happen /sarcasm Seriousely, it's a nice idea, but until everybody gets a personal escape system (read: ejection seat) it kind of is a deathtrap. They *could* fit those SKS-94-2 lightweight extraction seats (made for aerobatic planes), but they weigh 18 kg at the very least, and that will cut down the ammount of troops, guns and other cargo. And there is the problem of added weight for jettisonable hatches and those two big deadly thingies which keep it from crashing in the first place. A cargo pod system would be cool, but then again, the servicing of a ejectionable cargo container and the weight outweighs the human lives lost (you CAN put a price on a life). Oh, don't start with the crash absorbtion rants, that is really pathetic, I mean, how often will it make a hard landing on a perfectly flat surface, when the wheels contact first, and everything is like from a highschool physics book? Never, hence my rant about the usefulness of a rocket extraction seat (Ka-50-esque) for all attack helicopters, basically everything that can lose rotors due to battle damage. But... the current trend is to glorify the crash mitigation systems and how they can REDUCE the damage to the occupants in a 50 km/h crash, wowee, cars already do it at 64 (okay, the vector is different, but you get the point). And seriousely, if a chopper is battle damaged, and is spiralling down from high altitude (1km or so), you better wear a parachute, and since all American made choppers don't allow for crew parachutes, well, more heaps of spare ribs and other fleshy parts in a crater. The Soviets actually saved helicopter crews' lives (Mi-24 and Mi-8) in Afghanistan, sure, not all bailouts were succesful (low altitude), but it's better than dying anyway. Argh, the V-22 gives me headaches from a safety perspective. But, if I ever get the chance to hitch a ride in one, I will be like ---This--- happy :) Really a nice contraption, they finally made a viable tilt rotor, the question remains wether it really is as good as it was on paper. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQB4Me Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Concur. Even if it's not secret, it'd probably be a real pain to reproduce. Just the thought of modelling the control laws for transition between rotorborne and wingborne flight makes my head hurt. I'm sure it's not impossible . . . but bear in mind that the Osprey is first and foremost a transport aircraft. It is not, and probably never will be, a gunship. And DCS does include the word Combat. If ED ever start a DTS series, I'm sure it'll be up on the list . . . Oh, I have no doubt that modeling the Osprey with DCS's AFM would be difficult. And I know that the devs have enough on their plate and will be working hard to keep us happy with the next series of aircraft. But, I'm sure that the fact that it would be "difficult" wouldn't stear them away from doing it if it made sense in the DCS series and the community had interst in it. And yes, it is just a transport, but I do remember some fond games/ missions in LB2 where you are flying the Blackhawk on "transport missions". But, that is just me. I appreciate your guys response. I have been lerking for awhile and decided to post something for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodik Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 No evil capitalists. At first at first Mi-28, Ka-25 at second an-64 and after that what you wont: an-64, a-10, osprey, elephant Dumbi (sorry for my english) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boneski Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 A very neat ship. Got to see it in operation, it's a pretty impressive machine. As for it being added to the game... that would be cool to see. It does not have to have or need to have a true physics model. The AI programming be fudged so it looks like it's doing what it has to do. As for systems... you will never see a game come close to containing any accurate information about weps or systems. So no worries. They should go for it. My mission is to fly, fight, and win. o-:|:-o What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No evil capitalists. !? :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buznee Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 If you want a vertical takeoff machine that can also fly fast why not the harrier? I think having the harrier made by DCS would be incredible. Is there not aircraft system information out there for DCS to work with? It would be a perfect aircraft since it is considered a multirole aircraft and unque and challenging to fly. It is also is unique in that it has it's own problems such as the redigestion of it's own exhaust. Theres a ton of possibilities I think with the harrier. You could land in unprepared areas and many other things. What do you say eh? Not sure if it would be the original sea harrier or the AV-8B. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britgliderpilot Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 If you want a vertical takeoff machine that can also fly fast why not the harrier? I think having the harrier made by DCS would be incredible. Is there not aircraft system information out there for DCS to work with? It would be a perfect aircraft since it is considered a multirole aircraft and unque and challenging to fly. It is also is unique in that it has it's own problems such as the redigestion of it's own exhaust. Theres a ton of possibilities I think with the harrier. You could land in unprepared areas and many other things. What do you say eh? Not sure if it would be the original sea harrier or the AV-8B. :D The original Harrier was the GR1 - a light strike fighter for the end of the world scenario. Only got adapted into the Sea Harrier later on . . . Jet Thunder is working on the GR3 and Sea Harrier FRS1 in a Falklands setting - that's probably the best bet. The next three flyables for DCS are pretty much fixed now . . . anything after that would be pure speculation. The Harrier's capabilities tend to be a bit overstated, but it wouldn't half fit the fun and challenging bit! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sulan- Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I agree a Harrier at some point would be awesome!! :D I can't think of one aircraft - except perhaps the Ka-50 itself - that I'd like to fly more in a sim like this than the Harrier, whichever version it may be.. Oh well, one can allways dream :) I'm a super happy dude now since I'll get to fly the Ka-50... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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