Flap Position and Turn/Slip Indicators

[Shahriar0]

Hi,

 

When flap is lowered, the flap position indicator continues to show flap up when looked at from the rear cockpit looking forward. Similarly when plane is turning, the turn/slip indicator does not show any movement. These are the only two instruments that I have noticed not working correctly when looked at from RIO's point of view. Hope they could be fixed rather quickly.

 

Thanks.

[Shahriar0]

Let me be more specific; This only happens with two human pilots occupying the cockpits. If a single pilot lowers flaps and then moves to the rear cockpit then the indicators do work as expected.

 

It's beyond me what the difference is, but my front seat and I did observe it. We reversed seats and result was the same. From rear cockpit looking (zooming) forward, these two indicators did not work.

[Kaiju]

And also when I'm in the back (RIO) and looking at the pilot's mirrors I see myself instead of seeing the pilot :doh:

[Airhunter]

Just an engine limitation I'd assume.

[Shahriar0]

In case HeatBlur is assessing the priority to make the fix, let me say that while this is not the most crucial two indicators in the cockpit but they are certainly useful to the backseat as an instructor!

 

I am currently using the F-14 platform to teach a friend of mine some of the basic aspects of flying - including landing. I can take the back seat and zoom into the front cockpit instruments and monitor VSI, AoA Index, Turn/Slip Indicator, etc. and talk real time to him. This is something I can't do in any other DCS plane and is extremely useful (and realistic.) So having all instruments and indicators show correctly from the back seat is fairly important.

 

Appreciate if Heatblur would chime in and let us know when we can expect a fix.

[IronMike]

Tracked. Unfortunately this will be somewhat lower on the priority list, but we'll see if we can squeeze it in somewhere. MC issues can be really trivial or a really really big deal sometimes, I cannot say in this particular issue.

[Shahriar0]

Understood. Appreciate the comment and attention by HB. I am crossing my fingers for this to be a trivial one :)

[IronMike]

Understood. Appreciate the comment and attention by HB. I am crossing my fingers for this to be a trivial one :)

 

 

 

 

My pleasure, as always, and I hope so, too. Thanks again for the report.

[Shahriar0]

I am pleased to report that in 2.5.6.52196 release, not only the flap position and turn/slip indicator do work when viewed from the RIO cockpit, but also the helmet of the pilot is displayed in the mirror (instead of RIO.)

 

This is truly fantastic. Since there were no references in the patch note, I had little hope for a fix, but HB did come through. Really appreciate it.

[P0G0]

The bug about mirror it's not with RIO mirror but with Pilot mirror.

 

 

"when I'm in the back (RIO) and looking at the pilot's mirrors I see myself instead of seeing the pilot"

[Cobra847]

We can only render one mirror. Otherwise performance would suffer immensely. The front mirrors are treated as RIO mirrors thus in the rear cockpit.

[Shahriar0]

My apologies! I completely misspoke on this; flap position and turn indicator do work when viewed from rear cockpit only in single-player. In multi-player is still broken, as it was originally reported.

 

To me it shows that the general coding is there but in multi-player these two do not get synched.

[RustBelt]

Probably for the best given how delicate the Sync code is in general for MP.

[IronMike]

My apologies! I completely misspoke on this; flap position and turn indicator do work when viewed from rear cockpit only in single-player. In multi-player is still broken, as it was originally reported.

 

To me it shows that the general coding is there but in multi-player these two do not get synched.

 

 

 

 

It's possible that this is a general Multicrew issue we cannot influence. We'll keep it on the list for now and we will take a look (at a later point), if it cannot be fixed.