VR noob questions (Oculus link)

[Emacs]

Hi there,

 

I have an Oculust Quest with Link attached to my PC (i9 9900k, 64GB RAM, Radeon 5700XT) since yesterday.

Got the link working and sat PD in DCS to 0.5 and in the Oculus Tray tool I set Default Super Sampling to 1.6 and Deefault ASW mode to "off". All anti-aliasing in DCS is set to off.

 

So far the image quality is really fine. I can read all the gauges, 3d depth perception is great and despite a bit of vertigo, flying DCS is super-fun.

 

But my framerates are stuck in the lower twenties. Pretty choppy. And I'm not sure which is the right way to improve these. On my regular 4k monitor running in 4k resolution with MSAA=2 I get pretty much 60fps in almost all situations.

 

A couple of questions first:

 

1.) DCS still renders on my 2d monitor while I wear the Quest headset. Is that supposed to be the case? Or is this doubling the load for the PC?

 

2.) should I keep V-Sync on?

 

3.) I'm still waiting for my USB3 cable and have to run an USB2 until that arrives. My take is, that affects image quality, but shouldn't affect framerate. Right?

 

Any other obvious suggestions for a total VR noob?

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

[dburne]

1; Yes. It is just a mirror image, so no it is not doubling load.

2: No.

3: It will affect throughput, so yes can affect performance.

 

No need to set PD in DCS to .5 and then apply SS in OTT. One or the other.

With my current rig I run PD at 1.2 set in game with my Rift S.

2X MSAA.

 

Use in game graphic settings, video card software settings typically will not apply in VR.

Are you overclocking that CPU any? If you can get all cores running around 5.0 to 5.2 GHz it helps.

You can disable hyperthreading in the bios which helps some on CPU core temps. DCS will use different cores during a session, so at default bios setting in your system it will have one or two cores boosting to around 5 GHz but the remaining cores are at like 3.6 GHz, so best to get all cores on same speed if you can.

 

Congrats on getting your Quest with Link going out the chute, for a newbie to VR that is a good accomplishment.

Edited June 4, 2020 by dburne

[Emacs]

Hi dburne,

 

thanks for the tipps and the feedback.

I have switched to the default VR-Preset in the DCS graphics setting and am now in the lower 30 fps. Lost a bit of clarity on the gauges though.

 

Currently I'm having trouble with the virtual knobs in the cockpit.

My mouse pointer (white circle) disappears after some time and the Oculus controllers seem to point to something outside the cockpit - like going through the cockpit walls.

 

Are you using OTT at all ?

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

[Sporg]

Hi Emacs

 

I have made a guide to my setup and optimization of the Quest in DCS.

 

I have uploaded it here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=276595

 

Maybe it can be of use or inspiration to you.

[dburne]

Hi dburne,

 

thanks for the tipps and the feedback.

I have switched to the default VR-Preset in the DCS graphics setting and am now in the lower 30 fps. Lost a bit of clarity on the gauges though.

 

Currently I'm having trouble with the virtual knobs in the cockpit.

My mouse pointer (white circle) disappears after some time and the Oculus controllers seem to point to something outside the cockpit - like going through the cockpit walls.

 

Are you using OTT at all ?

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

 

I have the Touch controllers disabled.

Yes I use OTT, for DCS mainly as audio switcher. I use in game PS setting rather than SS setting in OTT for DCS.

[Emacs]

I have now my PD in game to 1.2 and MSAA x2. OTT of or default.

Fiddled around a bit with the resolution overall and gauges in particular.

 

I did the Free Flight mission F-5 in the evening over NevadaMap / LasVegas.

What a blast !!

I have solid 30+ fps, fairly readable gauges. The scenery was even more beatiful and I managed to stay in formation with my flight lead for the whole flight. Well, at least until he went burners without telling me.

Formation flying is indeed much easier in 3d.

 

@Sporg: looking at your guide right now. Wow, that must have been a lot of work! Looks exactly like what I need. Thank you!

 

Two more questions about interacting with the virtual cockpit:

 

1.) I managed to turn a feature one, which displays a text label when I look at something. I look at the rear view mirror and a lable pops up telling me that I'm looking at the rearview mirror. A bit annoying. How can I turn that off?

 

2.) I'm using the mouse now and it works well, once I got used to finding it blindly. The mouse is a white dot in the VR cockpit. But there is another pointer, a green cross and that's linked to my headset. It stays in the center of my view and follows me around. Is that supposed to be there too? Might be linked to 1.)

 

Apologies for all the stupid questions - I'm a bit hyped by the VR experience right now...

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

[Taz1004]

1.) I managed to turn a feature one, which displays a text label when I look at something. I look at the rear view mirror and a lable pops up telling me that I'm looking at the rearview mirror. A bit annoying. How can I turn that off?

 

2.) I'm using the mouse now and it works well, once I got used to finding it blindly. The mouse is a white dot in the VR cockpit. But there is another pointer, a green cross and that's linked to my headset. It stays in the center of my view and follows me around. Is that supposed to be there too? Might be linked to 1.)

 

Apologies for all the stupid questions - I'm a bit hyped by the VR experience right now...

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

 

1) Turn off tool tips from Gameplay section of DCS options. It turns it off for all, not just for rearview mirror.

2) You may have chat window or comm open. White dot is for the comm menu. Green cross is for controlling your cockpit. And yes it always follow your head. It should go away if you don't click anything for few seconds. Or try Use Mouse in DCS VR options.

[Sporg]

I have now my PD in game to 1.2 and MSAA x2. OTT of or default.

Fiddled around a bit with the resolution overall and gauges in particular.

 

I did the Free Flight mission F-5 in the evening over NevadaMap / LasVegas.

What a blast !!

I have solid 30+ fps, fairly readable gauges. The scenery was even more beatiful and I managed to stay in formation with my flight lead for the whole flight. Well, at least until he went burners without telling me.

Formation flying is indeed much easier in 3d.

 

@Sporg: looking at your guide right now. Wow, that must have been a lot of work! Looks exactly like what I need. Thank you!

 

Two more questions about interacting with the virtual cockpit:

 

1.) I managed to turn a feature one, which displays a text label when I look at something. I look at the rear view mirror and a lable pops up telling me that I'm looking at the rearview mirror. A bit annoying. How can I turn that off?

 

2.) I'm using the mouse now and it works well, once I got used to finding it blindly. The mouse is a white dot in the VR cockpit. But there is another pointer, a green cross and that's linked to my headset. It stays in the center of my view and follows me around. Is that supposed to be there too? Might be linked to 1.)

 

Apologies for all the stupid questions - I'm a bit hyped by the VR experience right now...

 

Cheers,

 

Emacs

 

You're welcome, and thanks. ????

The biggest work I felt was finding my way, and optimizing the game to something I liked.

Writing it down was just nice, so that others could use it.

????

 

I don't have your issues with text labels and green crosd.

I get the usual text labels when pointing at something with the controllers, that's all.