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Yo people,

 

Found nice video for those who claims that Cobra is nice for air show only, beat this! :

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With other player

To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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Come on people, we all know that there are the moments when you are inches short from pulling E in to the HUD to get the lock on him, I'm talking about those adrenaline thrilling moments when you have E at your 2-3 o'clock and both turning at the similar rate at minimum speeds and you risking of stalling if you pull any harder on the stick and this is when Cobra comes handy... Maybe it's not for everyday use, but never the less may help you to score... Imagine that you fly Mig-29OVT or Su-37 which both are capable of 720 degree flip...

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Hahaha. It's mine movie mate. :pirate:

 

I won't argue with ya if it's realistic. Because it's not.:megalol:

 

More explains here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=188583

 

Ohh, btw these "tips" can be used in combat against armed enemies Poko. In the movie the AI planes were unarmed because they were supposed to be drones for demo purposes. :music_whistling:

But I was only having some fun, that's all. Just Hollywood style baby! :smilewink:

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Hahaha. It's mine movie mate. :pirate:

 

I won't argue with ya if it's realistic. Because it's not.:megalol:

 

More explains here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=188583

 

Ohh, btw these "tips" can be used in combat against armed enemies Poko. In the movie the AI planes were unarmed because they were supposed to be drones for demo purposes. :music_whistling:

But I was only having some fun, that's all. Just Hollywood style baby! :smilewink:

 

 

We all know that E is unarmed and so on, that is not the point, point is that Cobra can be used to score, and I did it in LOMAC far before I saw Your video, thou my E was armed. It's all about your imagination and timing, you have to "know" that this is the moment when Cobra will give an advantage over the enemy.

I've used, I've scored, I know that Cobra is not for Air Show only whatever the rest of the world says. I used this video as an example for fantasy limited pilots, found this video yesterday... thanks for video, cos I wasn't recording the fight when Cobra helped me to score. Awesome!

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I've used, I've scored, I know that Cobra is not for Air Show only whatever the rest of the world says.

 

Wait, wait... Are you talking about LOMAC here? Or "real life" A2A combat?

 

IMHO: In Lock-On it can be used with success (but it's only a game in case of the aircraft that can perform Cobra, since they are lacking the AFM, AWM and so on) although it all depends on situation like you said + a little bit of luck. From the tactical point of view the Cobra is risky since your energy after performing it is gone and you are sitting ducks if you enemy is still flying.

 

In real-life: so far only a cool air shows stunt. Combat use is pure theory/fiction right now.

 

cheers :thumbup:

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Jeez man, I am talking about Cobra in LOMAC...(I thought your video was made in LOMAC too :P), thou it could be performed in real 1 on 1 situations (I guess), risky, but when you running out of options... and as I said, it's not an every day maneuver, but may come handy when your butt is at stake and conditions are just right!

Anyway, (my opinion), in close combat situations, better be in the plane which is able to perform it than in the one which can not... basta :D

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Wait, wait... Are you talking about LOMAC here? Or "real life" A2A combat?

 

IMHO: In Lock-On it can be used with success (but it's only a game in case of the aircraft that can perform Cobra, since they are lacking the AFM, AWM and so on) although it all depends on situation like you said + a little bit of luck. From the tactical point of view the Cobra is risky since your energy after performing it is gone and you are sitting ducks if you enemy is still flying.

 

In real-life: so far only a cool air shows stunt. Combat use is pure theory/fiction right now.

 

cheers :thumbup:

 

Im sure a cobra in LOMAC is pretty useless also. Everytime I've donne or seen anyone attempt it as an evasion technique ended up dying a horrible painfull death. :)

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It's near to useless as an evasive maneuver, a human pilot aiming with guns won't miss you if you do this in front of him. But it's very deadly as an offensive maneuver, and if you're in a 2-circles dogfight and the enemy is turning better than you, it may become the only way to score ;)

 

In real life, the time needed to execute the complete lock and launch sequence (a few seconds at least) makes it impossible to use ;)

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hey guys, how to fire 2 missiles at once (or more) like in that video

 

thanks !

 

Well, what you could also do is program your joystick so that when you fire the trigger is will toggle the space bar 2 times. I have my flares set to go off with only 1 click, yet 3 flares fire off. Atleast I have that ability with my x52.

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nhaaa .... cobra is a crucial manuever in lomac ..... for make great movies like that :)

 

 

n1 ...great work !!!

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Well, what you could also do is program your joystick so that when you fire the trigger is will toggle the space bar 2 times. I have my flares set to go off with only 1 click, yet 3 flares fire off. Atleast I have that ability with my x52.

 

oh, understand

thank you ! ;)



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Well, what you could also do is program your joystick so that when you fire the trigger is will toggle the space bar 2 times. I have my flares set to go off with only 1 click, yet 3 flares fire off. Atleast I have that ability with my x52.

 

oh, understand

thank you ! ;)

bare in mind that Su 27 and Su 33 carries only 32 flares on board and deploys them in pairs, so one click and 6 of them are gone... 5 clicks and you out of the flares...

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Can the cobra be reproduced at 30,000 feet effectively? For that matter, what about 20,000 feet? The higher you go the lower air density becomes. So what kind of airspeed are we looking at for departure of controlled flight? At those altitudes the entry airspeed may be lower than that required to sustain flight. Can anyone shed more light on this? I'm going to look a little more into it when I leave work.

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I was wondering this because isn't the heart of the F-15's envelope .9 mach at around 30k feet? Just wondering how effective this maneuver would be at higher altitudes. It's one thing to do it clean, at low altitude, and another to be in combat at mid to high altitude with a combat load is all.

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I suspect that if I try the maneuver in the sim, I will get the standard "canned" output everytime, at every altitude regardless. But I'm going to try it, maybe I'll post a video with my findings...what I would like to see are some performance charts, barring that, I don't think question can be answered with authority.

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OK so I tried it out in lockon and I could get the maneuver to work at around 22k feet but when I tried it at any altitude above that, I couldn't get it work. However, I did notice that without hitting the "k" key to execute the maneuver, I could not get the pitch rate needed with full abrupt elevator to even make the plane pitch up radically, let alone to make the maneuver happen aerodynamically. But when I hit the magical "k" it happened textbook. I just can't see how this would be useful at high altitude where the eagle wants to operate?

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I think "K" is what lets you to override the maximum AOA which is what Cobra is about. As far as I know Su 35/37 have a button on the stick which does the trick...

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