AGM-123 Skipper II & AIM-54A

[Sir_Troooper]

I checked the original model of the AGM-123 and well, it doesn't looks so good. So i made a new one. And i saw that there is an R-37 Missle slot, what's not used, so i made an AIM-54A too. Hope you like it.

AGM-123 Skipper II & AIM-54A.rar

[TorwaK]

Thanks tropper. Rep for you.

[Kusch]

Great! :)

[Vekkinho]

Nicely done, Have some rep!

[nesher]

Nice my friend!!!:thumbup:

 

Rep you!:smilewink:

[Lotham]

Cool :) Thx :gun_smilie:

[HubMan]

I checked the original model of the AGM-123 and well, it doesn't looks so good. So i made a new one. And i saw that there is an R-37 Missle slot, what's not used, so i made an AIM-54A too. Hope you like it.

 

Hi Sir_Troooper :)

 

The R-37 is bugged : the range displayed in the HUD looks promising, but once you have fired it, it won't fly really far away... :) You should maybe replace directly the Phoenix already in game ? :)

 

Anyway, thanks for sharing your models :)

 

 

Hub.

[Sir_Troooper]

Hi Sir_Troooper :)

 

The R-37 is bugged : the range displayed in the HUD looks promising, but once you have fired it, it won't fly really far away... :) You should maybe replace directly the Phoenix already in game ? :)

 

Anyway, thanks for sharing your models :)

 

 

Hub.

 

Hello HubMan!

 

Yes i know, but i don't wanted to replace it with the original Phoenix, Because i need them both to the Tomcat. Sorry, it doesn't fly a great distance, but if you want you can replace it with the original Phoenix too! :)

And your and your teams work on the AdA mod is great!:thumbup: I'm really looking forward to fly those sexy Mirages!

 

And thanks for all the replys guys!

[HubMan]

Hello HubMan!

 

Yes i know, but i don't wanted to replace it with the original Phoenix, Because i need them both to the Tomcat. Sorry, it doesn't fly a great distance, but if you want you can replace it with the original Phoenix too! :)

And your and your teams work on the AdA mod is great!:thumbup: I'm really looking forward to fly those sexy Mirages!

 

And thanks for all the replys guys!

Hi Sir_Troooper :)

 

Thanks for appreciating the Mirages as much as we do :) About the missile replacement, one over possible choice could be to use the R-27EA.

It's efficiency / pk is very poor but at least, it's a Fox 3 with a very decent range :)

 

Good luck with your project :)

 

 

Hub.

 

PS : did you do the textures of the AGM-123 yourself ? Very neat job :)

[Sir_Troooper]

PS : did you do the textures of the AGM-123 yourself ? Very neat job :)

 

No, unfortunately I can't make good textures, i hasn't got Photoshop, i can only work with GIMP.:( I Modified the CBU-97 Bomb's texture a lil bit so credits are goes to ED for the textures. I hope it's not problem.:huh:

But the textures on my new rockets are mine, except the rocket engine.

 

And about the R-27EA, it's a great choice. I'll do it.:doh:

 

P.S: has anyone got an idea what should i do? A weapon what needs a new model? I'll do it with pleasure.

[Eagle Driver]

I gathered that both the R-37 and R-27EA won't turn. I've found that when fired, a Maverick will turn better than either of them without trouble. Maybe I did something wrong?

[Excelsior]

No, you did nothing wrong. The R-37, R-27AE and IIRC the AIM-54C have been limited to 1G manoeuvres to stop people using Lope to cheat on-line.

[Kuky]

No, you did nothing wrong. The R-37, R-27AE and IIRC the AIM-54C have been limited to 1G manoeuvres to stop people using Lope to cheat on-line.

 

You sure about that? Got some testing done to back that up?

[Excelsior]

You sure about that? Got some testing done to back that up?

 

 

Is Developer testimony good enough for you?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=120553&postcount=25

 

I'll post the R-37 and AIM-54 posts when I get them. They are over in the Russian forums and pretty trick to find if you are an english speaker.

 

A few sample missions showed that the EA is indeed limited to 1G with the R-37 @ 1.6g

[Kuky]

Please do a test yourself with AIM-54 and let me know what max G's you get.

[GGTharos]

The AIM-54 is limited to 5g or so - the R-37 and 33's probably to about the same, IIRC. The R-27EA is limited to 1g. Those limits can be exceeded on occasion, but not by much.

 

This isn't realistic, but it was done to lessen the impact of cheating.

[borchi_2b]

just one little question,

isnґt the r-27ea a legal weapon for the su27 of today?

i can remember when i talked to some guys form the sukhoi company here in berlin on an airshow, that they told me it is possible to have such weapons in use with the su27 but the missiles are very expansive and would only be used maybe in the worst case.

maybe it was just a marketing strategic, who knows

[Excelsior]

The AIM-54 is limited to 5g or so - the R-37 and 33's probably to about the same, IIRC. The R-27EA is limited to 1g. Those limits can be exceeded on occasion, but not by much.

 

This isn't realistic, but it was done to lessen the impact of cheating.

 

Yep, knew the AIM-54 was dumbed down but for some reason thought it was 1 like the AE. 5G for the R-33 seems right too.

 

I saw a thread over in the russian part a few days ago, someone wanting to know why the Su-33 didn't have the R-33 and wanting some info on the R-37, he was told by one of the devs that it was limited to 1G and it had short legs. Can't find the thread now but still looking. I tried the R-37 earlier and it seem like 20kms or so it drastically slows down then self destructs.

[Excelsior]

just one little question,

isnґt the r-27ea a legal weapon for the su27 of today?

i can remember when i talked to some guys form the sukhoi company here in berlin on an airshow, that they told me it is possible to have such weapons in use with the su27 but the missiles are very expansive and would only be used maybe in the worst case.

maybe it was just a marketing strategic, who knows

 

Politics killed the R-27AE off when it was in the prototype stage.

 

Rumours are that China made copies of it but no solid evidence of it, just a few pics of a R-27 type missile with radome covers on it but who knows what type of seeker, or what shape of radome :smilewink: is under there.

[Kuky]

Tested the AIM-54 and it does 6G. Now about the 1G limit... that's kind of stupid as 1G means the missile can't do any pullup... only turn left or go downwards... If it's flying level it's doing already 1G :D

[Excelsior]

Tested the AIM-54 and it does 6G. Now about the 1G limit... that's kind of stupid as 1G means the missile can't do any pullup... only turn left or go downwards... If it's flying level it's doing already 1G :D

 

 

No, you did nothing wrong. The R-37, R-27AE and IIRC the AIM-54C have been limited to 1G manoeuvres to stop people using Lope to cheat on-line.

 

Obviously, as I said earlier, I didn't remember correctly but it was dumbed down.

[Kuky]

Well you made this claim that missiles are doing 1G max... you basically gave completely wrong info... it's not like you said it's around X amount of G's, you specifically said 1G. Now, it's not possible for it to be 1G in any way for reasons I gave previously (gravity alone gives 1G) and lastly... the R-33 is indeed set the same as AIM-54 and is at 6G.

[Excelsior]

OMG, well if you want to act all childish like this then chalk one up on you Forum phallus. Must be fun being so perfect.

 

I was sure of 2 and IIRC'ed (but didn't) on the third.... big woop.

[Kuky]

never mind...

[v1per]

If it's flying level it's doing already 1G :D

 

More like sitting on the ground.

 

The AIM-54 Phoenix can pull an excess number of G's, just not as much as your typical AIM-7 Sparrow or AIM-120 Amraam. The AIM-54C has greater range, tighter turning, better seeker and better warehead than the AIM-54A. You can pretty much say the AIM-54A sucks but hey, where did Iran's kill count come from? That must mean the C is better than most people suspect. ;)