gdotts Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 After all the waiting to get P-47D and they said wait so they can get it right.....YEA it's finally here...the one thing I laughed about is the fact their default yellow checkered P-47D which is GEORGIOUS has two US insignia's on the bottom wing where there should only be ONE!! It's a small thing I know. One on the top and one on the bottom that's it. Hoping for some new skins that don't have this!:pilotfly::pilotfly:
Ercoupe Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Some Jugs did have them on both lower wing sections.
Barrett_g Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) ALL early European theater Jugs had two on the bottom. There were no allied fighters with radial engines when the P-47 showed up. British AAA gunners had itchy trigger fingers and were quick to shoot at any radial engined fighter thinking they were FW-190’s. To prevent accidental friendly fire, allied command ordered two insignias painted on the bottoms of P-47’s. Edited July 15, 2020 by Barrett_g
gdotts Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 Schooled! WOW...I thought I knew a lot as a WWII buff. Thanks for the lesson. :)
Grimleo Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 What squadron does the default livery belong too? I like to use Google to find the squadron side letters that go with the livery.
SmirkingGerbil Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 ALL early European theater Jugs had two on the bottom. There were no allied fighters with radial engines when the P-47 showed up. British AAA gunners had itchy trigger fingers and were quick to shoot at any radial engined fighter thinking they were FW-190’s. To prevent accidental friendly fire, allied command ordered two insignias painted on the bottoms of P-47’s. That is pretty cool, had no idea! Any instances of OP-FOR using subterfuge and painting wings with stars to try and fool Allied forces? Pointy end hurt! Fire burn!! JTF-191 25th Draggins - Hawg Main. Black Shark 2, A10C, A10CII, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Mig-15, Mig-19, Mig-21, P-51, F-15, Su-27, Su-33, Mig-29, FW-190 Dora, Anton, BF 109, Mossie, Normandy, Caucasus, NTTR, Persian Gulf, Channel, Syria, Marianas, WWII Assets, CA. (WWII backer picked aircraft ME-262, P-47D).
Barrett_g Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 That is pretty cool, had no idea! Any instances of OP-FOR using subterfuge and painting wings with stars to try and fool Allied forces? I’m not sure. I haven’t read of anything like that. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen... BUT I have seen American planes that were shot down and repaired by the Germans. The Germans even painted them yellow and put their insignias on them. If you consider the above.... and remember that back then, most attacks involved several planes operating together.... It would probably mean that the kind of subterfuge your talking about likely didn’t happen.
gdotts Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 SO our guys won't fire upon Yep...both sides on the bottom said for ground verification...notice 371 fighter group
Grimleo Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Answered my own question. The default livery is from the 351 Fighter Squadron 353 Fighter Group 8th Air Force. The squadron side letters were YJ. Found the information on the American Air Museum in Britain site. The pilot in the picture is Capt. Lloyd G. Hally who flew with the 351st Fighter Squadron. Hally flew P-47D "Angel of Mercy" and disappeared on a mission after encountering engine trouble. First declared MIA, Hally was later classified KIA. He joined the squadron on June 7, 1944 and served until his disappearance on Sept. 21, 1944. He hailed from Huxley, IA. Edited July 16, 2020 by Grimleo
Ercoupe Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 "Any instances of OP-FOR using subterfuge and painting wings with stars to try and fool Allied forces?" By doing that, you'd run the risk of being fired on by your own side.
Ercoupe Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 "Answered my own question. The default livery is from the 351 Fighter Squadron 353 Fighter Group 8th Air Force." Yes, the "Slybirds." They would later get Mustangs.
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