eracer1111 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 What kinds of things do you program macros to do? I just got a new keyboard and need some ideas. First thing that comes to mind is programming one to do a cold start routine. Electrical power on. Wait 180,000 ms Nav lights ON Close Canopy Set throttle position to 0 Start L engine Wait 10,000 ms Start R engine Flaps to takeoff position What other things do you assign macros for?
Rudel_chw Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 What other things do you assign macros for? I use them for short sequences that together comprise a single task, for example: To change the view to a fixed snapview I use a three step macro: - Pause The headtracking. - wait 60 miliseconds - press Cockpit_view_toggle - press the snapview key To exit the view, I use the reverse macro: - exit shapview - wait 60 miliseconds - unpause the headtracking. On the Mig-21, I use a macro to extend the landing gear: - release LG lock - wait 500 msec - gear handle down - wait 2 seconds - gear handle to neutral position - wait 500 msec - enable LG lock - switch landing lights to landing position Reverse that to retract the LG :) I’d never use a Macro for more complex tasks, like cold starting, as that is a task for myself. Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
eracer1111 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 I can see how you wouldn't want checklist items assigned to a macro. That's pilot stuff, and a big part of the realism we look for in the sim.
sirrah Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) What kinds of things do you program macros to do? I just got a new keyboard and need some ideas. First thing that comes to mind is programming one to do a cold start routine. Electrical power on. Wait 180,000 ms Nav lights ON Close Canopy Set throttle position to 0 Start L engine Wait 10,000 ms Start R engine Flaps to takeoff position What other things do you assign macros for? Not my intention to troll or anything and I probably don't understand what these macros are used for, but just curious. Why would you bother to create a macro for this and why not just use the engine start sequence cheat? I do however understand the one for the MiG21 gear as it requires a lot of valuable hotas buttons Edited July 21, 2020 by sirrah System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
David OC Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) If you plan on many aircraft, keep them all very similar use case. If you have HOTAS (Throttle and stick) why macro's? Think in the long term here. Are you planning on HOTAS or have one? HOTAS and Trackir is a game changer, same with VR. You can fly and get quite good if you keep the muscle memory similar for all aircraft. Everything is close to what it is for the real jet on HOTAS, then I only use a modifier button assigned in DCS to my throttle (pinky button). When this is held ALL the buttons on the stick and throttle can do other things........? I only use the modifier for very basic used all the time items. Flaps, gear turn radar silent multiplayer etc. Other wise it's trackir, see button and click button. The checklist is a back up when flying. I need to visually scan and click, this comes back to muscle memory (If in the real thing switch) Or visual click memory here. The only real way to get that physical memory is to build a pit. What kinds of things do you program macros to do? I just got a new keyboard and need some ideas. First thing that comes to mind is programming one to do a cold start routine. Electrical power on. Wait 180,000 ms Nav lights ON Close Canopy Set throttle position to 0 Start L engine Wait 10,000 ms Start R engine Flaps to takeoff position What other things do you assign macros for? That's also in game and allowed on many servers and aircraft. (Hold Left windows + Home key) = Inbuilt Auto Start DCS macro. Edited July 21, 2020 by David OC i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
Rudel_chw Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 If you have HOTAS (Throttle and stick) why macro's? My HOTAS includes a macro language, and it is nice ... it allows me to bind complex actions to just a single HOTAS button. The MiG-21 macro I mentioned earlier looks like this .. first you need to state which comand keys the Sim accepts: Gears_Handle_Lock_engaged = {RCTL g} Gears_Handle_Lock_released = {RSHF g} Gears_Handle_Neutral = {LCTL g} Landing_Lights_LANDING = {LALT LCTL l} Next you define the Macro, like this: Extend_LG = Gears_Handle_Lock_released DLY(500) Gears_Down DLY(2000) Gears_Handle_Neutral DLY(500) Gears_Handle_Lock_engaged Landing_Lights_LANDING and finally, I bind the Macro to a HOTAS button, like this: BTN T9 Extend_LG :) For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
David OC Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 My HOTAS includes a macro language, and it is nice ... it allows me to bind complex actions to just a single HOTAS button. The MiG-21 macro I mentioned earlier looks like this .. first you need to state which comand keys the Sim accepts: Gears_Handle_Lock_engaged = {RCTL g} Gears_Handle_Lock_released = {RSHF g} Gears_Handle_Neutral = {LCTL g} Landing_Lights_LANDING = {LALT LCTL l} Next you define the Macro, like this: Extend_LG = Gears_Handle_Lock_released DLY(500) Gears_Down DLY(2000) Gears_Handle_Neutral DLY(500) Gears_Handle_Lock_engaged Landing_Lights_LANDING and finally, I bind the Macro to a HOTAS button, like this: BTN T9 Extend_LG :) Reminds me when I was using CH Manager way back, now CH Throttle and VKB. I did have a few different macro's setup for Flare / chaff for the FC3 Aircraft tho, when using the manager. What the OP described, is pretty much the inbuilt macro. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
eracer1111 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Posted July 22, 2020 Not my intention to troll or anything and I probably don't understand what these macros are used for, but just curious. Why would you bother to create a macro for this and why not just use the engine start sequence cheat? I do however understand the one for the MiG21 gear as it requires a lot of valuable hotas buttons Good question, actually. I guess because I didn't know there was an engine start sequence cheat!
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 What kinds of things do you program macros to do? I just got a new keyboard and need some ideas. First thing that comes to mind is programming one to do a cold start routine. Electrical power on. Wait 180,000 ms Nav lights ON Close Canopy Set throttle position to 0 Start L engine Wait 10,000 ms Start R engine Flaps to takeoff position What other things do you assign macros for? 1. Refuel probe off 2. TACAN - T/R 3. Master ARM on 4. Radar on - A-A mode 5. HUD Gunsight 6. Playing "Terminator theme" For those refuelling days we all have, you know. It´s called "Refuel, terminate". i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
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