-Cipher- Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Hello guys....I'm trying real hard to find the 1A manual containing AWG-9 or weapon employment stuff but I never had any luck finding it.....people say it's classified because Iran is using them...and they might use them to upgrade their Tomcat (this seems like a joke because we all know Iran can never do such thing or if so....only a simple manual won't help) anyway if it's not ok to release the US version of NAVAIR 01-F14AAA-1A.....so I think they can release NAVAIR 01-F14AAA-1A(IR) which belongs to Iranian Airforce.......also if they are classified how HB simulated the AWG-9??? if anyone has access to it please let me know thanks people :thumbup: CPU :Intel® Core i5-4690K CPU @3.50GHz 3.50GHz | GPU :RX 580 Sapphire |RAM : 16GB | SSD 500GB & 1TB Samsung | Flight gear : T.16000 FCS Flight Pack Wishlist : F-117 Nighthawk | F-14D Super Tomcat | F-111 Aardvark | P-38M Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flybull Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Let me know if your find it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiceman Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 One came up on EBay some years ago, but that’s about it. It’s not classified any more. I wouldn’t think that the US has any more interest in classifying the -1A any more than they would the SU-35’s counterpart. One of the guys in our group actually tried to FOIA it from NAVAIR. They didn’t say no, they just said they didn’t have it. Former USN Avionics Tech VF-41 86-90, 93-95 VF-101 90-93 Heatblur Tomcat SME I9-9900K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3200 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe | RTX 2070 Super | TM Throttle | VPC Warbird Base TM F-18 Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cipher- Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 One came up on EBay some years ago, but that’s about it. It’s not classified any more. I wouldn’t think that the US has any more interest in classifying the -1A any more than they would the SU-35’s counterpart. One of the guys in our group actually tried to FOIA it from NAVAIR. They didn’t say no, they just said they didn’t have it. thanks ! do you have any idea how can I find it??? I need it so bad.....I spent more than a month finding it and still no result CPU :Intel® Core i5-4690K CPU @3.50GHz 3.50GHz | GPU :RX 580 Sapphire |RAM : 16GB | SSD 500GB & 1TB Samsung | Flight gear : T.16000 FCS Flight Pack Wishlist : F-117 Nighthawk | F-14D Super Tomcat | F-111 Aardvark | P-38M Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiceman Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I don’t think you’ll find one, but good luck. Former USN Avionics Tech VF-41 86-90, 93-95 VF-101 90-93 Heatblur Tomcat SME I9-9900K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3200 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe | RTX 2070 Super | TM Throttle | VPC Warbird Base TM F-18 Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I doubt the Iranians ever used NAVAIR pubs in the first place. The entire sales program was administered and coordinated through and via the USAF. It may have been Navy pilots doing some of the transit flights, but they were doing it under USAF funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealpup Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I doubt the Iranians ever used NAVAIR pubs in the first place. The entire sales program was administered and coordinated through and via the USAF. It may have been Navy pilots doing some of the transit flights, but they were doing it under USAF funding. Just because a piece of equipment went through the USAF, doesn't mean they had USAF tech orders. When I was in, the shops I was in (MetNav/Airfield Systems) had publications from the FAA, NOAA/NWS, Army, and a few other sources. So even if the USAF was dealing with the sale to Iran, they were likely still using the NAVAIR's, just with a stamp on them that added a USAF T.O. number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81banana Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I doubt the Iranians ever used NAVAIR pubs in the first place. The entire sales program was administered and coordinated through and via the USAF. It may have been Navy pilots doing some of the transit flights, but they were doing it under USAF funding. Nonsense Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedrat2 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I believe NAVAIR 01-f14AAA-1A is still classified because of chapters 31 to 36 and for sure chapter 39 of the manual. I believe the navy still uses some of those subsystems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flybull Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 having a look at the photo of the actual manual - it was reclassified to UNCLASSIFIED.... My sources are that HB themselves acquired this exact document, possibly via a 3rd party who made the purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 So why would they have given them these employment manuals when their cats were delivered only capable of firing AIM-54's by intent? They had no sparrow or 9 systems installed, the Iranian's had to figure that out and wire it themselves, long after the war. I'm betting they used reverse engineering from the phantoms along with phantom's stocks of weapons, since no weapons were delivered for the cat beyond the phoenix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart666 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 The Pentagon actually supplied the Iranians with Upgrade kits for their Phoenix's, and bomb racks for Tomcats. I think it possible they may well have given them the documentation to do other things too. That was part of Iran Contra I believe. Not that the Iranians were not smart enough to do it of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappy Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 So why would they have given them these employment manuals when their cats were delivered only capable of firing AIM-54's by intent? They had no sparrow or 9 systems installed, the Iranian's had to figure that out and wire it themselves, long after the war. I'm betting they used reverse engineering from the phantoms along with phantom's stocks of weapons, since no weapons were delivered for the cat beyond the phoenix. As far as I know they had the Aim-9P and earlier Sparrow variants in use around 1981 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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