crazyeddie Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 The only problem with that announcement is the one made a few days ago by a Parliamentary Group stating we cannot afford them now. They never intended to go ahead with that project, no catapult capacity, ski jumps which means cobbled together helo borne AEW, it was only ever going to produce a second rate carrier. The French are going to use the same design but conventional type carrier capacity, which is what we need, not this heap of junk. I predict they will never be built.
SuperKungFu Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 It doesn't really look that big compared to the nimitz. But then again, its just a 3d render. Any particular reason why they chose 2 towers? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bigbelgian Posted March 29, 2008 Author Posted March 29, 2008 Yo boys,didn't want to make a statement,just share it with you guys,.................you have to love the grafics:surprise: Oh and about that catapult thingy.....................why need catapults if you have vertical take-off planes?Just wondering. Big Puta out.:notworthy: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]cure"Biggy"bigbelgian
RedTiger Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H6h8i8wrajA :megalol:
bigbelgian Posted March 29, 2008 Author Posted March 29, 2008 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H6h8i8wrajA :megalol: ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]cure"Biggy"bigbelgian
crazyeddie Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Hi guys, to answer some of your questions, as best I can. Ski jumps limit the operational use of the deck, you can only launch 1 aircraft at a time and you cannot launch and recover aircraft at the same time. Ski Jumps means no arrestor wires, so nobody else will be able to use them, not much use when everbody else operates conventional carriers and conventional carrier aircraft. Ski jumps means no fixed wing AEW, helicopter AEW is pretty awful as the Royal Navy already knows and its extremely limited in it's range. High value assets with poor protection, something wrong there. Now, I should have mentioned, these 2 ships will have the capacity to be converted to have catapults and arrestor wires fitted, but having spent an enormous amount of money on F-35B's they are not going to swap them for F-35A's - and even if they did they would still only have 2 catapults each, conventional wisdom states you need 4 to operate high performance jets. 2 ships only, to make operational sense they would need to have a minimum of 3, 2 at sea and 1 in dock. I have not seen any reason for the split towers, ships operation to the front and air operation to the rear - seems a strang way to do it when many years of experience put those 2 key functions close together, might be something to do with the hangar arrangements and the lifts, anyone know different ? I believe the F35A is a much more capable aircraft than the F-35B, but our Harriers are being phased out and we need something to replace them, the F-35B is the only option. I would love to see them built, but as conventional carriers with cats and arrestor wires and F-35A's. The choice now is either go ahead with them, and I have read that the steel has been ordered, or change tack completely and build 3 new Invincible Class replacements instead which will suit the F-35B perfectly, or just scrap the whole idea. We have a socialist government here and I do not believe they never seriously intended to complete this project, our ground troops are overstretched to the point of breaking, all of our current defence projects are hugely over budget and we are not a rich country any more. We could bin our Nuclear submarines and get on with building a modern conventional armed forces but politicians here want to be in the big boys club so we are stuck with this compromise, until they decide they do not need it after all. The "we do not need these ships" lobby has started to raise it's voice this week, watch this space !!.
bigbelgian Posted March 29, 2008 Author Posted March 29, 2008 Thx Eddy for the extra information but you are taking this way to serious m8:music_whistling: I dont mean anything by that, but still. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]cure"Biggy"bigbelgian
DarkWanderer Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Ski jumps limit the operational use of the deck, you can only launch 1 aircraft at a time and you cannot launch and recover aircraft at the same time. Ski Jumps means no arrestor wires, so nobody else will be able to use them, not much use when everbody else operates conventional carriers and conventional carrier aircraft. Ski jump means no more energy and volume consuming catapults. Ski jumps means 2-4 aircrafts in minute launched from one pad (compare to 0.2-0.3 of traditional catapult) Ski jumps means that you can easily change the direction of takeoff in case of emergency on the deck. Ski jump doesn't mean "no arrestor wires". It's just another design of takeoff assist system. And at last, it's the only GB modern carrier project. Is it better to throw out the money spent on development?.. You want the best? Here i am...
tflash Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Hmmmm ... I'm with Bird & Fortune on this one. If the MoD hotshots are handling this, I'ld say lets first wait and see what the fate of these carriers will be then! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
muamshai Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 submarine aircraft carrier developed by Conch Republic This space is available for your advertisement
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