Kula66 Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 I can AAR in the 14 ok, but recently I fall off the basket after a couple of mins connected, like a sudden change in trim or trim reset. So one second happy with min stick inputs, the next I'm dropping and then into PIO. I've tried AARs with Jester disabled, and it still happens ... I'm sure this didn't happen a couple of months ago - any changes that may cause this? Or is it me? Anyone else seeing this??
captain_dalan Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 I just spend the last 2 weekends doing just that, perfecting the procedure in the S-3B (the previous weekends i was working on the heavies) and i didn't really notice any change between the patches. Open beta, right? Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache, F4U Corsair, WWII Assets Pack
The_Tau Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 I refuelled on BlueFlag from KC130 tanker with no problem. Remember that S3 uses old model and its THE hardest to AAR with. I think it have to do with old drogue model and its "intake" hitbox is incredibly small. "Up-to-date" tankers have bigger "intake" hitbox so margin of error is larger (and longer fuel cables). Also dont forget, as F14 takes fuel, it becomes heavier therefor slightly more power/trim is required Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau
Kula66 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Thanks guys. Beta - yes, and its on a 135, left station, wings in bomb mode ... Very simple take-off, climb and tank. I'll post the mission later. Its not a problem with hooking-up, its a sudden change in pitch trim after a while connected. So normally when I AAR, I have to add a little trim in as the weight increases, this is a sudden nose drop. I'll have to try creating a new mission - maybe its a speed/weight thing, I did notice I was pretty slow.F-14b-GroundToAAR-Syria.miz Edited October 5, 2020 by Kula66
Kula66 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 I think it just me getting too slow ... I lowered the KC down to 28k' and had no trouble and stayed over 300kts.
draconus Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 I think it just me getting too slow ... I lowered the KC down to 28k' and had no trouble and stayed over 300kts. That's excessive - optimal is 240 KIAS. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Kula66 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 240 @34K'? Hmm, that seems slow ... I'l' have to do some experimenting. Thanks. Edited October 5, 2020 by Kula66
draconus Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 240 @34K'? Hmm, that seems slow ... I'l' have to do some experimenting. Thanks. It's IAS so altitude does not matter for aircraft behavior. That 34k seems pretty high too. Doing long transfers or sth? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Kula66 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 ‘Sth’ ... not sure what that means. Lowing alt definitely helped!
draconus Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 ‘Sth’ ... not sure what that means. It's short for "something". Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
The_Tau Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) I refuel at 250-300 knots at 10k-20k and its fine. I would say its harder at higher altitudes.... Edited October 6, 2020 by The_Tau Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau
Kula66 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 Cheers ... I had the tanker up high so I could find it easily ... I know, not really necessary because of TACAN & radar, so I'll try it 10-20 and see how it compares. Issue doesn't happen at 28k'.
Spurts Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 I swear the tanker turns as I near the basket every time. Smooth approach, no major inputs, almost there.... and why is the entire tanker swinging left in front of my canopy? Stupid S-3
Kula66 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 Back in the old LockOn days, I must have shot down the entire USAF KC-135 fleet in my 15 in frustration! Now, being older and wiser, I just curse them loudly.
Spurts Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Between Falcon 4.0, BMS, LO-MAC, and DCS... I am pretty sure I have shot down three times as many tankers as I have connected with them.
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