Mig29a chute rip off speed?

[Eiskatze]

I'm really enjoying the Mig29 right now and I'm loving the Instant Action "mig29a final approach" where you land at Sochi-Adler in clouds, rain and wind. It's a pretty fast descent through the clouds and easy to gain speed which you then have to burn off. There are so many ways to tweak the approach: follow the navigation and slowly descend through the clouds; drop through the clouds quickly, level off, bleed speed then continue approach; bleed speed too much and then have to recover; come in hot and have to finesse at the very end. I'm learning so much about finessing a landing with the mig29 and practicing how to deal with adverse or emergency landing scenarios.

 

But I'm still having a little difficultly figuring out what is the maximum speed when the drag chute will rip off. I've had several times where the chute rips off and my brakes don't slow me down enough and I roll off the end of the runway. My guess is it is somewhere between 300kph and 350kph.

I'm fairly certain when I try the chute over 350kph it rips off but I haven't saved those tracks.

One "gentle" track I landed at 310kph and popped the chute at 280kph and everything was ok.

Another landing track I am coming in a bit hot, crossed the threshold at 380kph and landed around 340kph. I applied brakes and and waited until 300kph to deploy the chute and it also worked.

There is nothing in the manual and I haven't found anything in my searches so far.

Has anyone else tried to figure out the absolute maximum speed where the mig29 chute does not rip off? I'll keep trying to push the edge.

[shishkin]

According to some docs the maximum is around 310 kmh.

[Eiskatze]

thanks shishkin, it felt like 300kph was right on the edge so this makes sense. which docs did you find it in? It wasn't in the DCS Mig29 manual

[draconus]

You can do straight in approach but you have to start airbraking right away and just follow the course director and catch the glide slope. You can also do overhead pattern which will allow you to arrive higher and faster to bleed the speed in the crosswind break.

The touchdown should be around 260-270kph. 300 is too fast. If you can't make it within the touch down zone add power and go around again. Learn to do it safely and properly not how to land it no matter what.

If you're settled on the runway deploy the chute and use brakes below 200kph. You should have plenty of runway left if you do things right :thumbup:

 

Look at how Ironhand does it - you can never go wrong with him!

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Edited November 13, 2020 by draconus

[Ironhand]

Maximum speed for chute release in the sim, with engines at idle, is 309 km/hr. At least that’s what it’s been thru last February. That was the last time I checked but that’s what it’s been since I was a toddler......so I doubt it’s changed.

 

 

 

EDIT: Draconus, you’re too kind.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Ironhand

[Eiskatze]

Thanks Ironhand and Draconus. I understand the importance of "safe and proper" but I have always learned best from my mistakes and learning my limits. If I can master landing the Mig29 at the edge then doing it properly with gentle approach and correct speed becomes super easy and second nature for me. It's just how I learn things best. And since this is a simulator I can push the limits, make mistakes, crash and die without worries.