Reticuli Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 If I accidentally turn on that useless natural cockpit view where it's shifting things around as I maneuver, how do I disable that? And where is this natural cockpit view actually looking, anyway? If it was looking in the exact center of what would be my flight path marker (if I had one) that might actually be useful. X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volk. Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 There is a function of saving custom cockpit views - I forget the exact name now. But if you find you're suddenly looking off at an angle instead of forwards when you've centered your headtracking (or just loaded in and haven't pressed keys to look around), then it might be that. There is also a Helmet Ring Displacement setting under the main menu > options > special settings tab > Ka-50. Default is 11 degrees. That means that your centre-view is offset 11 degrees down from normal. This is an intentional function so that when you look around you can keep your eyes between the Helmet Mounted Sight slightly higher up, and the Shkval IT-23 screen. You can set it to zero degrees (or close to it), which will then align the Helmet sight with your view, but then you can't keep the screen in your view at the same time. For Black Shark tutorials, visit my channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-LgdvOGP3SSNUGVN95b8Bw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reticuli Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) It's not any of it. There's a function called Natural Cockpit View (Lctrl + F1). If you hit the key combo for it a second time, it doesn't disable like a toggle. And hitting any other cockpit view doesn't go to these other views instead. You can go to external views, but if you go back to cockpit view, you're now stuck with this natural g-moving thing until you like get out of the sim and back. BS1 didn't have this issue. The natural view key press was a toggle. Hit it a second time and it'd disable and go back to normal. Edited December 6, 2020 by Reticuli X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volk. Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Ah, ok, didn't know of that function before. Can't help you on that one I'm afraid. For Black Shark tutorials, visit my channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-LgdvOGP3SSNUGVN95b8Bw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reticuli Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) So as far as I can tell, it's either broken and not correctly toggling off or I'm doing something wrong. I'm also curious as to what it's supposed to be looking at. Is it looking in the direction of the imaginary flight path marker? Because that would be useful, but it seems to be some goofy g force related thing. I've always liked the idea of looking in the direction of a flight path marker, keeping that centered all the time. That might be a useful feature, but these g force views, especially the strong ones like this one, I always found to be counterintuitive. Edited December 6, 2020 by Reticuli X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton181 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Have you tried hitting "F1" only? The "normal" view? Never used that "Lctrl+F1" view, but most of these F button views are just "modes" you go into and press another to leave the present and enter that one. Helicopters and Viggen DCS 1.5.7 and OpenBeta Win7 Pro 64bit i7-3820 3.60GHz P9X79 Pro 32GB GTX 670 2GB VG278H + a Dell PFT Lynx TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reticuli Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) Of course. Seems to make no difference. You usually just hit some other cockpit view and get out of it. That doesn't work. Hitting it again doesn't work, either. Only thing I can do is just try not to accidentally hit that combo during a session, and if I do, I have to exit the sim. I want to say that in BS1 at one time this natural cockpit mode was like on by default and you'd have to hit that combo to actually toggle it off first at the start of a session. Now it's off by default, but if you turn it on, you can't seem to turn it off. Sometimes I can eject and simply get another aircraft and I'm back with it off, but other times, like if it's on and in HUD-only mode with this natural g force view thing I have to exit first. This appears to be a bug. I've found that if I hold 0 on the numpad and one of the other numbers to look briefly at a side console enough times and then hit 5 all by itself repeatedly that eventually it will switch out of this mode. Funny thing is that unless you're using the numpad it won't go to any other cockpit view even temporarily while this natural thing is on right now. The numpad thing, though, is a temporary view and seems to bypass the glitch. So definitely some kind of bug. Edited December 6, 2020 by Reticuli X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton181 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Any MODs installed? If so, try removing all of them. MODs can cause strange issues if related original files have been updated by ED but the MOD files have not been corrected accordingly. Have seen this myself several times. This is the last thing I can think of. Helicopters and Viggen DCS 1.5.7 and OpenBeta Win7 Pro 64bit i7-3820 3.60GHz P9X79 Pro 32GB GTX 670 2GB VG278H + a Dell PFT Lynx TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Press F1 and then Numpad 5. And unmap it from the controls options if you don't want to accidentally activate it. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reticuli Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 no mods X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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