Create Toggle Snap Views of the left and right side consoles

[melchionda]

Hi Folks, I'm trying to make views of the left and right side consoles so that I can work the radios and the CDU in VR with out having to lean over in weird positions to see what I am doing.  My goal is to create a view where the view is straight down perpendicular to the panel.  When I use the snap view function and save a new view using the RAlt + 0 command with my head in this position the view is saved as if I'm looking forward over the console as opposed to straight down.  Anyone have a good way to create good views of the Radios and CDU in the A10 which can be mapped to a button?

 

The other question I have is, I cant seem to find commands that would move the static view into those positions.  I tried playing around with the camera view controls in the cockpit ie- "Move camera down and to the right" but they don't seem to move the camera.

 

Also, I noticed something in the view list that I think was called Cockpit Panel View. Does anyone know what that is?  I couldn't get it to do anything beyond give me a weird view angle from which I had trouble getting out of.

[sthompson]

3 hours ago, melchionda said:

The other question I have is, I cant seem to find commands that would move the static view into those positions.  I tried playing around with the camera view controls in the cockpit ie- "Move camera down and to the right" but they don't seem to move the camera.

 

Did you have TrackIR running when you tried moving the camera? It will cause the camera to reset on the slightest head movement. I've created snap view of the sort you are describing in other modules (the Mig-15 for example). I found I had to suspend TrackIR while setting them up.

[melchionda]

2 minutes ago, sthompson said:

Did you have TrackIR running when you tried moving the camera? It will cause the camera to reset on the slightest head movement. I've created snap view of the sort you are describing in other modules (the Mig-15 for example). I found I had to suspend TrackIR while setting them up.

I don't run Track IR, however I am running a VR headset.

[sthompson]

Just now, melchionda said:

I don't run Track IR, however I am running a VR headset.

I don't have VR but wouldn't be surprised if it over-rides the static camera movement commands too.

[Sr.]

This would be great...

 

You gotta be carnival freak show contortionist to see anything aft of your elbows in vr.

[BigDuke6ixx]

On 12/17/2020 at 10:33 PM, melchionda said:

I don't run Track IR, however I am running a VR headset.

 

Why do you need snap views if you have VR? 

[Sr.]

I think you'll find that many of those View controls are unusable in VR mode. Like the VR and Spyglass zoom are unusable in 2D.

1 hour ago, BigDuke6ixx said:

 

Why do you need snap views if you have VR? 

Try setting the aft radio in an A-10 in VR 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Sr.

[icemaker]

she will disapear when the new radio will come. It's just matter of time.

[Captain Orso]

On 12/29/2020 at 7:48 PM, Sr. said:

I think you'll find that many of those View controls are unusable in VR mode. Like the VR and Spyglass zoom are unusable in 2D.

Try setting the aft radio in an A-10 in VR 

 

If you are flying in VR, the re-center VR button is your best friend.

 

Lean forward until your head is above the control stick and press re-center and then sit back again. Your view is now emitting from close to your headrest and you can easily look down at all the radios to make all the adjustments to your heart's content without having to do acrobatics -- works on the other console as well 

[Fri13]

I have faint recollection that early phase the viewpoints worked with VR same way as 2D. But it was then removed.

 

I hope they would bring that support back as it was at Oculus CV1 time the way to work around limited pentile pattern.

 

 

[melchionda]

On 12/29/2020 at 9:34 AM, BigDuke6ixx said:

 

Why do you need snap views if you have VR? 

Do you fly the A10C in VR?  Have you ever interacted with the CDU or the radios?  I find it incredibly difficult to get my body into a position that allows me to interact with those.  I find the same thing in the F14 when changing the channels on the Tacan.  Its made extra difficult by the fact that the panels are "aged" so the labels are hard to see.  The way I solve the problem now is to use a view command to slide my "view" all the way back as far as it will go and then do what I need to do and then slide my seat forward again.

 

Edited January 2, 2021 by melchionda

[melchionda]

On 1/1/2021 at 4:27 AM, Captain Orso said:

If you are flying in VR, the re-center VR button is your best friend.

 

Lean forward until your head is above the control stick and press re-center and then sit back again. Your view is now emitting from close to your headrest and you can easily look down at all the radios to make all the adjustments to your heart's content without having to do acrobatics -- works on the other console as well 

Ok... thats clever, I can see how that might work. I'll give that a shot.  So when you are done interacting with the radios, how do you get back to the "standard" cockpit view?  Do you just hit "re-center" a second time to go back to normal?

Edited January 2, 2021 by melchionda

[sthompson]

I don't fly VR but use TrackIR instead, but use the same trick. There is no return to "normal view" because the new view with your head naturally a bit further back is more normal than the "normal" one that implicitly has you leaning in all the time. The downside is that this changes your perspective on the instruments and HUD, and possibly you won't like the new view as much. But I don't think there is any way to quickly toggle between two default view positions. That's presumably why the OP was asking about snap views in the first place.

[Captain Orso]

5 hours ago, melchionda said:

Ok... thats clever, I can see how that might work. I'll give that a shot.  So when you are done interacting with the radios, how do you get back to the "standard" cockpit view?  Do you just hit "re-center" a second time to go back to normal?

 

Yes, you just sit normally in your seat and press the re-center VR camera button again, and everything will be back to normal.

[Sr.]

On 12/30/2020 at 12:35 AM, MrFlibbles said:

I noticed something similar today when I was playing with settings. I ended up deleting the fxo and metashaders2 contents and let it rebuild again on start up, problem disappeared.

 

On 1/1/2021 at 6:27 AM, Captain Orso said:

If you are flying in VR, the re-center VR button is your best friend.

 

Lean forward until your head is above the control stick and press re-center and then sit back again. Your view is now emitting from close to your headrest and you can easily look down at all the radios to make all the adjustments to your heart's content without having to do acrobatics -- works on the other console as well 

Works great. My neck thanks you!