cromhunt Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Hum!Hum! nice work isn'it? But a little thing is disturbing. Why we are loosing so easyly the rudder without any damage? And when i say rudder it's all the vertical tail. I don't remember that the poor P47D was so brittle? Hey:) ED are you sure of that? Edited December 19, 2020 by cromhunt
gomslork Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 The only way I can get the tail to rip off during flight, is to keep the cowl flaps open. I can dive at close to 500mph and have no problems, but at 350mph with the flaps open, the tail rips off very quickly 1
grafspee Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 350mph with flaps open are you crazy ? above 225mph with cowl flaps open p-47 experience heavy tail buffeting. You absolutely have to close them completely above 225mph. P-47 was strong plane, but this does not mean that you can ignore everything while flying it. Edited December 20, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
cromhunt Posted December 20, 2020 Author Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Nothing to do with this kind of sets; With cowl flaps open? cowl flaps close... Any speed... I don't care,any aircraft never loose his Vtail in any case.This case is stupid and specific to DCS. Before that we have to feel more things like buffeting or vibrations and so and so...Sometimes commands come hard to move... Like the main forces aerodynamics are applyed on all horizontal surfaces. These have to be broken before any other surfaces. Remember that it's not the vtail that make the aircraft fly sustended. In the vertical plan not any forces could make broken some thing; apart if you have your rudder full applyed from a side or other side I did a lot of descent when i was flying parachutists airplane;With high speeds and resources.And this case never happend. Or so i'm talking to you from my tumbstone. Maybe a Pilatus PC6 or a Cessna 207/206 and many other planes like that are more solid than a war aicraft?it's a bullshit. The P47D was the more solid among all warbirds. It's a bug and never mind. Useless to discuss. Edited December 20, 2020 by cromhunt
grafspee Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 P-38 was well know of loosing tail section at high Mach. Maybe it is hard to believe but those things happen, even for modern planes as well. This is why you do not exceed max speeds. If max speed for p-47 with cowl flaps is 225mph you should not exceed those limits. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
grafspee Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, cromhunt said: I don't care,any aircraft never loose his Vtail in any case.This case is stupid and specific to DCS. I advice you to read about American Airlines Flight 587 then. Edited December 20, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
ricktoberfest Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Nothing to do with this kind of sets; With cowl flaps open? cowl flaps close... Any speed... I don't care,any aircraft never loose his Vtail in any case.This case is stupid and specific to DCS. Before that we have to feel more things like buffeting or vibrations and so and so...Sometimes commands come hard to move... Like the main forces aerodynamics are applyed on all horizontal surfaces. These have to be broken before any other surfaces. Remember that it's not the vtail that make the aircraft fly sustended. In the vertical plan not any forces could make broken some thing; apart if you have your rudder full applyed from a side or other side I did a lot of descent when i was flying parachutists airplane;With high speeds and resources.And this case never happend. Or so i'm talking to you from my tumbstone. Maybe a Pilatus PC6 or a Cessna 207/206 and many other planes like that are more solid than a war aicraft?it's a bullshit. The P47D was the more solid among all warbirds. It's a bug and never mind. Useless to discuss.Let’s see how well the control surfaces of your Cessna or Pilatus hold up above vne. Then come and talk about how that’s the same thing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Davee Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 15 hours ago, grafspee said: 350mph with flaps open are you crazy ? above 225mph with cowl flaps open p-47 experience heavy tail buffeting. You absolutely have to close them completely above 225mph. P-47 was strong plane, but this does not mean that you can ignore everything while flying it. Agreed, I think there is a metal plate on the dashboard or somewhere that says specifically that!
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