silentbob11 Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Hi, I keep getting CTD with all modules after the last update the crash happen for no apparent reason it's random and happens sometimes after few minutes and sometimes after half an hour, sometimes not at all, nut the crashlogs look quite the same: anyone has a clue? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
silentbob11 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) OK here it is... SB11 Edited January 7, 2021 by silentbob11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 What you've posted is just a screenshot of a tiny bit (crash dump) of your dcs.log file. I neeed the broader picture to tell you what happened, and I need it as text file, in order to search for specific words in it. Please drag and drop it here. It's located here in your PC: C:\Users\your-name\Saved Games\DCS...\Logs\dcs.log Flappie's_dcs.log ---
silentbob11 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Posted January 7, 2021 OK hope this helps: dcs.20210104-171544.log CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 Thank you. Here's the interesting part: "DX device removed". It means DirectX couldn't communicate with the GPU anymore. 2021-01-04 16:58:47.155 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: texture 'mig-29_nose_spec' not found. Asked from 'NGMODEL' 2021-01-04 16:58:47.155 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: texture 'mig-29_tex03_spec' not found. Asked from 'NGMODEL' 2021-01-04 17:15:41.016 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006 2021-01-04 17:15:44.376 WARNING LOG: 339 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2021-01-04 17:15:44.376 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2021-01-04 17:15:44.376 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:379 2021-01-04 17:15:44.377 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2021-01-04 17:15:44.379 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20210104-171544 -------------- 2021-01-04 17:15:44.380 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2021-01-04 17:15:44.382 INFO EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll 2021-01-04 17:15:44.383 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 33B498A0 00:00000000 2021-01-04 17:15:44.388 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'Ilan' 2021-01-04 17:15:44.389 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2021-01-04 17:15:44.901 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000001298A0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10420 2021-01-04 17:15:44.901 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000044048 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x2B0B8 2021-01-04 17:15:44.901 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000004006 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::CustomMaterial_Impl::GetMaterialCaps + 0x816 2021-01-04 17:15:44.902 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000031131 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::RenderObject::render + 0x21 2021-01-04 17:15:44.902 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002BD2D1 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimpleLineObject::self_render + 0xA1 2021-01-04 17:15:44.902 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002C5892 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0xE2 2021-01-04 17:15:44.902 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002C5920 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ceSimple::draw + 0x170 2021-01-04 17:15:44.903 WARNING LOG: 2 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2021-01-04 17:15:44.903 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002B2830 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorPage::draw + 0x60 2021-01-04 17:15:44.903 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002AB7D5 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicator::draw + 0x75 2021-01-04 17:15:44.903 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002ABB8E (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicator::draw_to_viewport + 0xDE 2021-01-04 17:15:44.903 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002B1A1D (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorBake::addSource + 0x2ED 2021-01-04 17:15:44.904 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000002B15E6 (CockpitBase): cockpit::ccIndicatorBake::OnBeginFrame + 0xB6 2021-01-04 17:15:44.904 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000004AA2E (GraphicsCore): Graphics::fireRendererCallbacks + 0x15E 2021-01-04 17:15:44.904 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000015A094 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::CreateSceneManager + 0x5684 2021-01-04 17:15:44.904 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000007B02A7 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3BE537 2021-01-04 17:15:44.904 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000007C3AB3 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3D1D43 2021-01-04 17:15:44.905 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000794834 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2AC4 2021-01-04 17:15:44.905 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000794BF9 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2E89 2021-01-04 17:15:44.905 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000018572FC (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xBEA2F8 2021-01-04 17:15:44.905 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000098462E (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x5928BE 2021-01-04 17:15:44.906 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2021-01-04 17:15:44.906 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000004D0D1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2021-01-04 17:15:45.149 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created. Here are four threads dealing with the same kind of crashlog ("DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED"). The OPs all had their issue fixed, according to them. Feel free to read them and try what they have tried: Cause: faulty PSU Cause: SSLR enabled Cause: overclocked GPU Cause: RAM overclocked Solution: slightly downclocked GPU Solution: check for absence of dust and/or GPU well placed in its slot It can also be an issue with the graphics driver, sometimes. Not so long ago, people had a lot of crashes like this when switching from F10 view to F1 view over Syria. Do your crashes happen at this very moment? ---
silentbob11 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Posted January 7, 2021 Thanx Flappie I know two of this thread because I've been there before. Thing is my previous crashes were solved after an update... my PSU is not faulty, SSLR was no problem, and I'm not OC GPU, CPU or RAM. rig was dusted 2 weeks ago. Crashes became frequent after the last update. right now DCS is unplayable for me as every mission (in the Caucuses, Persian Golf or Syria with the F-18, F-14, F-16) ends with a crash, sometimes after 5 minutes sometimes after 20, sometimes after 45. Totally random. haven't had these kind of crashes in a long time - and now it came back BIG TIME. I hope you could help me better thus time... SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 I'll do my best. Let's start with your graphics driver. It's been updated very recently: v460.89 (published on December 15th, 2020). Another user having the exact same crashlog with DCS has the exact same graphics driver. Have you tried reverting to a previous driver yet? You should give it a try. ---
silentbob11 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 OK thanx. Reverting to 460.79 right now. Let's so how it goes. SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
silentbob11 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 "Unfortunately DCS crashed" attached is MSI afterburner print screen of GPU temp CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 OK. 1/ Can you please check in your crashlog this bit is still present? Graphics::CustomMaterial_Impl::GetMaterialCaps This is the function that's crashing DCS in your previous log. 2/ Are you using shader mods? ---
Mr_sukebe Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 One question. Are you running DCS as an admin? I had some CTDs recently and tracked it down to the fact that i wasn't running as an admin. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
silentbob11 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Flappie said: OK. 1/ Can you please check in your crashlog this bit is still present? Graphics::CustomMaterial_Impl::GetMaterialCaps This is the function that's crashing DCS in your previous log. 2/ Are you using shader mods? No. can't find this line in my last crashlog SB11 1 hour ago, Mr_sukebe said: One question. Are you running DCS as an admin? I had some CTDs recently and tracked it down to the fact that i wasn't running as an admin. Not that I'm aware of.... Will try that too... Thanx SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, silentbob11 said: No. can't find this line in my last crashlog Then please attach your latest dcs.log showing your most recent crash. It may point to something else. Edited January 8, 2021 by Flappie ---
silentbob11 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Flappie said: Then please attach your latest dcs.log showing your most recent crash. It may point to something else. dcs.20210108-084139.log 1 hour ago, Flappie said: Then please attach your latest dcs.log showing your most recent crash. It may point to something else. This is the last one: dcs.20210108-084139.log CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Thank you. The function that triggered the crash is different from the previous log, indeed. Same source of issue, though: "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED". 2021-01-08 08:31:50.887 INFO Dispatcher: loadMission Done: Сontrol passed to the player 2021-01-08 08:31:58.300 INFO GRAPHICSVISTA: Creating Resource "Unicode" of type 1 2021-01-08 08:41:35.680 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0005 2021-01-08 08:41:39.564 WARNING LOG: 404 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2021-01-08 08:41:39.564 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED 2021-01-08 08:41:39.564 ERROR DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG 2021-01-08 08:41:39.566 ERROR DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0005 2021-01-08 08:41:39.566 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2021-01-08 08:41:39.568 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20210108-084139 -------------- 2021-01-08 08:41:39.570 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2021-01-08 08:41:39.571 INFO EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll 2021-01-08 08:41:39.572 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 435898A0 00:00000000 2021-01-08 08:41:39.576 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'Ilan' 2021-01-08 08:41:39.578 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2021-01-08 08:41:40.105 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000001298A0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10420 2021-01-08 08:41:40.105 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000030897 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x17907 2021-01-08 08:41:40.105 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000798F3 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x694C3 2021-01-08 08:41:40.105 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000CE577 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x36ED7 2021-01-08 08:41:40.105 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000DC428 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x318 2021-01-08 08:41:40.106 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000D39CA (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A 2021-01-08 08:41:40.106 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000007C3AE8 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3D1D78 2021-01-08 08:41:40.106 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000794834 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2AC4 2021-01-08 08:41:40.106 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000794BF9 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2E89 2021-01-08 08:41:40.107 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000018572FC (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xBEA2F8 2021-01-08 08:41:40.107 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000098462E (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x5928BE 2021-01-08 08:41:40.107 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2021-01-08 08:41:40.107 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000004D0D1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2021-01-08 08:41:40.319 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created. I don't have many ideas left at the moment. Try emptying these folders (NVIDIA shaders + DCS temp files): C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NV_Cache C:\Users\your-name\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS.openbeta You will probably get a message saying Windows can't remove some files in "NV_Cache". That's OK, just hit "Ignore". ---
silentbob11 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 Are you sure it's not heat related? All crashes occur on max temp... SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 It is a possibility, yes. How is your GPU temp doing with others games? ---
silentbob11 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 just tried COD on max setting. Got to 77c and didn't crash. Wonder why DCS puts so much stress on the system..? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 DCS is much more demanding for a PC (distance of view is way more important because of TGPs, textures are larger, ...). Your RTX 2060 Super should be OK unless it reaches 89°C. Have you tried this step, below? It worked for another user yesterday. Quote Try emptying these folders (NVIDIA shaders + DCS temp files): C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NV_Cache C:\Users\your-name\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS.openbeta You will probably get a message saying Windows can't remove some files in "NV_Cache". That's OK, just hit "Ignore". ---
silentbob11 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 Yes I have, it’s just a guess but, can it be a CPU overheating that causes the crashes? I have an i7 9700 SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 The "DXGI_DEVICE_REMOVED" message is returned by DirectX when your graphics card does't answer to its calls. Here is some reading about this error: It doesn't mean your GPU is broken. It means it was too busy (hanging) to answer DirectX calls. We need to find what's make it hang. I don't have anymore ideas. You should open a support ticket. ---
silentbob11 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Posted January 9, 2021 OK I’m not sure what did it but I emptied appdata/local/temp AND dusted off the CPU (GPU was clean but CPU was choked!) so far Im crash free for the last 8 missions. thanx for the support I’ll keep yall posted SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Flappie Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Excellent! Thanks for your feedback. Edited January 9, 2021 by Flappie ---
silentbob11 Posted January 17, 2021 Author Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) I promised to keep you posted so here it is: No crashes since CPU cleanup - and CPU is staying lower than 75C. I don't know if emptying the C:\Users\my_name\AppData\Local\Temp|\DCS.Openbeta helped - but it sure didn't hurt. Edited January 20, 2021 by silentbob11 1 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
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