HUAF MOD V1.00

[Pougatchev]

Hi all!

 

The HUAF mod is now ready for download!

 

http://www.vmh59.hu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65

 

Enjoy!

 

PS:sorry for my bad english but i'am french

[HUAF-074]

ATTENTION!!!

 

Our MOD not compatible that MOD's what modified the Meinit.xml file.

 

We use this All in One MOD for flying...

[Jack]

Skins are made by

-HUAF-074 (Mi-24W,Mi-8MT)

-59th_Reaper (Mig-29)

-59th_Mechanist( all of Su-25/25T skins)

-59th_Jack (the other skins)

Edited June 25, 2008 by Jack

[Pougatchev]

Thank's for this great work!

 

Where have you find the 3d model?Virtual Breitling?

 

When we have the possibility to fly on the jas 39? this is in your projet?

 

Have a good day

[Majesco]

ATTENTION!!!

 

Our MOD not compatible that MOD's what modified the Meinit.xml file.

 

I'll make the HUAF mod compatible with Walmis' F-15, Simmod's A-10 and 3GO's Chinese MiG-21 (Chengdu J-7) :P:pilotfly:

[icemaker]

:mad: Nice another mod made with stolen work!!!!

 

The L39 you used in your mod is the L39 made by Knell, Airone, and me!!! and grabbed from the last year VFAT mod, so please at least you could ask before give work not done by you whithout asking the creators persmission!

 

Bye

[HUAF-074]

:thumbup: OK :thumbup:

Where is your name and contact address in the VFAT MOD? Hmm

[Lotham]

Yep, there is some weird things which are on each model... And it will be really strange that 2 differents modelers does exactly the same weird things....

 

Where is your name and contact address in the VFAT MOD? Hmm

Luckyly for Leonard de Vinci, he has signed the "Joconde".... otherwise Huaf-74 was a great painter to

:megalol:

Edited September 10, 2008 by Lotham

[icemaker]

:thumbup: OK :thumbup:

Where is your name and contact address in the VFAT MOD? Hmm

Nice!

For your information the VFAT Mod was made for public who wants to see our public presentations during this show! not for public release and some vampires as you to take our job! The only thing you win is that our job on the L39 cockpit was never released for public! and maybe you can see it on video but as you are a very good 3D designer you will probably do it by yourself!

 

But if you need some edvidences here they are!

 

This is our job! with a bug when IA flies the L39!

 

 

And whow ! this is "your" mod! whith... ho!!! the same bug!

 

 

 

Maybe you need more edvidences but i dont want to waste my time for you!

Edited September 10, 2008 by icemaker

[HUAF-074]

 

I can't see the bug. Very nicely model, looks like a GMAX Academy L-39.

[59th_Reaper]

I can't see the bug. Very nicely model, looks like a GMAX Academy L-39.

 

I think it doesn't look like a GMAX L-39, because this is the GMAX L-39...:lol:

[BarbsMan]

I can't see the bug. Very nicely model, looks like a GMAX Academy L-39.

 

This bug is only when you create a flying IA plane in the mission editor.

 

When I compare the file from the 2 mods the size in byte is exacly the same.

So even if they comme from the same source model "GMAX Academy L-39" without any modification, you have to add animation to import it correctly in Lomac.

So if this work is made by to different person it's impossible to have an exact file size matching. :music_whistling:

 

Cheers.

Barbs.

[Cpt Stark]

and on the VFAT mod, the L39 was mixed with the Alphajet on the same slot,

changing 3D model with skin selection ....

 

I think it's easy to test :music_whistling:

[HUAF-074]

Hmm

 

I don't asserted what the LOM file is my creation.

HUAF MOD is a collection (3 in 1) package.

[59th_Reaper]

and on the VFAT mod, the L39 was mixed with the Alphajet on the same slot,

changing 3D model with skin selection ....

 

I think it's easy to test :music_whistling:

 

Don't need test, because this model's from the VFAT mod. The question is another. The VFAT mod was a freeware mod, without any maker comments/restrictions. These guys (if this model made by them really - if they're the GMAX team) only needed to write (into the VFAT description) their availability and restrictions if they've got, etc.

 

At the end, nobody said (in makers of the HuAF mod) this sentence : "The L-39 model was made by us"...

Edited September 10, 2008 by 59th_Reaper

[Lotham]

In that case you don't pretend to have created a new model... You say : "I've taken the L-39 model form bla bla bla... to do bla bla bla..." and when you are caught you say "Sorry" and stop lying.

 

By the may, the lack of use restriction means "nothing is permitted". If a valid licence is not published, the intellectual property rights are on the head of the creator and each use of his works needs his consent. It's like this in the whole world, it means even in US or Hungary, due to the trips treaties.

[Cpt Stark]

Don't need test, because this model's from the VFAT mod. The question is another. The VFAT mod was a freeware mod, without any maker comments/restrictions. These guys (if this model made by them really - if they're the GMAX team) only needed to write (into the VFAT description) their availability and restrictions if they've got, etc.

 

At the end, nobody said (in makers of the HUAF mod) this sentence : "The L-39 model was made by us"...

 

 

AdA Mod is freeware, Yeniceri A10 Mod is freeware ....

(did you paid for this mod ?)

 

This is not because a mod is free to download that it's free to take everything you want to put it into another public mod without asking autorisation and/or write authors names in the readme

 

Yes, this is a fault from VFAT Mod maker to forget rules of use in the readme file and/or name of skinner/modeler

 

But it's a fault to the HUAF Mod maker not to say that he was not the model maker or how it taked it .... (it's named credits)

 

should you be ok I made a public mod with your skin without marking who made the skin ? I don't think so

 

Did you search to contact anyone in order to search the model maker name ?

 

In 5 minutes, I found the VFAT official forum ... and they probably knew who is model maker and was able to tell you how to contact him

this is the respect of modeler

 

And another thing that is completly without respect of modeler's job

 

I think it doesn't look like a GMAX L-39, because this is the GMAX L-39...:lol:

 

This is the model from VFAT mod, you didn't know who make it

but you know this is a GMAX L-39 based model ???

 

:music_whistling:

[59th_Reaper]

We don't need to say "Sorry", because it's nothing to worry about (i wrote why, 2 posts ago). This HuAF mod already no available at our site...

 

In the next version of HuAF mod, we will implement our new L-39ZO and L-159A/B models, but that one will not public... That's all!

 

cheers

[Lotham]

Don't need test, because this model's from the VFAT mod. The question is another. The VFAT mod was a freeware mod, without any maker comments/restrictions

 

Obvisouly your not an intellectual property lawyer, so I took the time to explain you :

the lack of use restriction means "nothing is permitted". If a valid licence is not published, the intellectual property rights are on the head of the creator and each use of his works needs his consent. It's like this in the whole world, it means even in US or Hungary, due to the trips treaties.

 

It's a shame because :

- I have contact with Huaf-074 which is a nice guy

- Talented 3D modelers should work together and not stealing each other...

 

You don't want to say sorry : That confirm what I began to think... You are too proud to reconigze you faults,... I've no time to waste with a liar and a thief...

[59th_Reaper]

Liar, thief? Do you think that of these guys, those who are crying, whilst they said this L-39 model is their work, but really is the "GMAX Academy L-39" model with several changes? But if they're those (the real makers), i'm saying: SORRY!:)

 

No comment as far as i'm concerned... I will not post in this issue from now on.

 

bye

 

P.S.: The HuAF mod is not my work. So, let us leave it at that...:-D

Edited September 10, 2008 by 59th_Reaper

[Airone]

Ok guys,

 

It is always a problem to "discuss" by post like this one. Let me clarify the situation. We are not saying this one is a thief or whatever, it is not "stolen" or bla bla bla.

 

As always, freeware mod means that the autors spend a LOT of hours on their free time to improve or create a model. The miminum that people can do after the release of one's work is to recognise the free work and the good will of developers to share it with the communauty. :thumbup:

 

59th_reaper, we know each other form VFAT, I was with Kato the VFAT mod maker. You know that due to lack of time of this merged mod, it was impossible to "protect" fully the product. Hence the last we can attend if someone is using Lom file of the mod is first asking the author, if possible, or explain form where is the source of its files.

 

Now the story of this french L39. I was in contact with Gmax academy for the fs2004 model several years ago. Finally the model was bad compared to the early model created by Knell. Knell offered its early work to the Virevoltes, we put only the Ejection seat and pilot from Gmax, with the author authorisation. After that, I have finished the 3D work, enhance the model (lights, antennas...) and add the full animations to drive it into Lockon. Icemaker did the Breitling texture.

 

Well, if HUAF wants to use the model, that is not a problem, but THEY have to say that its a model from Knell, Airone and Icemaker, that is fair I guess.

 

This should close the disussion with everyone aware of the respect we have to grant on "3rd party developers". :music_whistling:

Cheers

Edited September 10, 2008 by Airone

[59th_Reaper]

Hi Airone!

 

Thank you for your post! The HuAF v1.0 mod was removed, but if we'll using your L-39 model in the next HuAF mod, you'll see your names (L-39 model makers) in the description!

 

Have a nice day!

 

59th_Reaper