104th Dance of the Vampires

[Tolovay]

Hello all,

 

I know I am just a white noise in waste DCS universe but anyway I would like to point out some things.

 

After I watched tacview, mission file, Mavericks commenting, I've came to those conclusions.

 

1. Red Fleet was never meant to be destroyed => impossible,

2. Hammer flight was more or less left alone. We actually had no escort which should stick with us no matter what - at least four ship. 2 viggens can sink on lone carrier with little luck in one flight,

3. Because nr. 2 never happened, Viggens base were absurdly far away and were not meant to do any harm. We were sitting ducks there,

4. Bearing and distance of ships should be in the briefing. If I would know this, tactics of Hammer flight would be completely different and probably we would do a suicide mission on which we all agree will do but unfortunately server crashed. 270 km  and 320km to the fleet is simply absurd.

5. Maverick, Hammer flight was not greedy  , it was completely guided by GCI. 

6. To the mission maker. Please next time check what is viggen capable of before putting them in mission like that  . 270 km nearest ship with a fleet near, a, a, that is a no go. In my opinion it would really spice things up if you would put a road base FARP on the coast road. 

 

 

 

 

[BonerCat]

What made the red fleet indestructible?
Yes, it was a difficult target to hit, but any ship in DCS will eventually succumb to the Rb-15F if enough if it is thrown at the ship (simultaneously), AND they are configured correctly, so ships SAM doesnt engage them
And didn't everyone on blue start all the way back on the same airbase the viggens did?
the AJS does have the range to reach those ships. You're just gonna have to be a bit economic in your fuel managment
Don't make me laugh Tolovay

Yes, it was a tall order
Yes, you should've had escorts
No, it wasnt impossible

Edited February 21, 2021 by BonerCat

[Coxy_99]

Thanks for putting it together as always, Server was fine at 94 ping for me, When we hooked up to the tanker all hell let loose warp wiped me up, I disconnected and checked the pings 104th server went from 94 to 260 so was impossible to re join, however looking at the other servers pings they were all fine, Im not sure what changed but yea was a no go for me.

[104th_Maverick]

Totally agree with BonerCat, the Viggen is more than capable of pulling off this mission, it's a little ludicrous for you to say something like 'please check what the Viggen is capable of before putting them in a mission like that' when this type of mission is exactly what the Viggen was intended to do.

 

You obviously did not enjoy the event and that is understandable, if you had fighter escorts the outcome could have been very different but please do not try to blame the mission designer for your failure.  Bullet did a fantastic job and your aircraft was more than capable to get the job done, things just didn't go your way.

[Tolovay]

1 hour ago, BonerCat said:

What made the red fleet indestructible?
Yes, it was a difficult target to hit, but any ship in DCS will eventually succumb to the Rb-15F if enough if it is thrown at the ship (simultaneously), AND they are configured correctly, so ships SAM doesnt engage them
And didn't everyone on blue start all the way back on the same airbase the viggens did?
the AJS does have the range to reach those ships. You're just gonna have to be a bit economic in your fuel managment
Don't make me laugh Tolovay

Yes, it was a tall order
Yes, you should've had escorts
No, it wasnt impossible

 

 

 

Mission was never tested with 60 participant i guess so now I see nobody cares how average flyer sees things. You all were where I am so please, give me a break.

[Tolovay]

18 minutes ago, 104th_Maverick said:

Totally agree with BonerCat, the Viggen is more than capable of pulling off this mission, it's a little ludicrous for you to say something like 'please check what the Viggen is capable of before putting them in a mission like that' when this type of mission is exactly what the Viggen was intended to do.

 

You obviously did not enjoy the event and that is understandable, if you had fighter escorts the outcome could have been very different but please do not try to blame the mission designer for your failure.  Bullet did a fantastic job and your aircraft was more than capable to get the job done, things just didn't go your way.

Maverick, nobody is blaming. And I was enjoying. Just putting on paper things from my perspective. I can't help if people reads text on forums and automatically take it as total negativism.  I believe someone with so high self valuing will not accept anything. I understand that. 

[=37.Sqn= Mjugen]

Thank you all and 104 for the event, "The Return of The Maverick" was really nice surprise. I hope you will comment on further events.

[104th_Crunch]

This was a blast! The mission design and the Comms setup was excellent. Great to see the 104th only has gotten better at hosting events like this. Looking forward to the next one! Thanks for all the work guys!

 

Also great to see so many people still around after all these years. 51st! S!

P.S. Never park your aircraft at the end of the runway while others are trying to land!!! Wake is a killer!

Edited February 22, 2021 by 104th_Crunch

[TAW_Blaze]

On 2/21/2021 at 12:09 PM, Coxy_99 said:

Thanks for putting it together as always, Server was fine at 94 ping for me, When we hooked up to the tanker all hell let loose warp wiped me up, I disconnected and checked the pings 104th server went from 94 to 260 so was impossible to re join, however looking at the other servers pings they were all fine, Im not sure what changed but yea was a no go for me.

 

Not sure what was the cause, I saw a lot of people getting ludicrously high pings. We will ship the new machine to the data center soon, were holding off until the event just to avoid any unforeseen issues.

 

On 2/21/2021 at 12:31 PM, Tolovaj said:

 

 

Mission was never tested with 60 participant i guess so now I see nobody cares how average flyer sees things. You all were where I am so please, give me a break.

 

No mission is tested with 60 participants. You might aswell host it twice if you want to do that.

[Coxy_99]

3 hours ago, 104th_Blaze said:

 

Not sure what was the cause, I saw a lot of people getting ludicrously high pings. We will ship the new machine to the data center soon, were holding off until the event just to avoid any unforeseen issues.

 

 

No mission is tested with 60 participants. You might aswell host it twice if you want to do that.

 

Yea really rare to have any issues with 104th events, My ping to your server was above 260, Yet when the server started i had a good 94.