falopa Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Hi everyone! I know it is early to make these inquiries, but I would like to know if you have the same questions that I have. In the video uploaded by Matt, we can see that the course can be indicated. My question is then, why only course? Shouldn't distance and course be indicated instead? The most efficient way to get to a point is a straight line Indicating only the course, how far from that point will my plane take me? With the image that I leave below, I hope you understand my concern. Ex: I want to arrive at the waypoint at 10 miles, with a course of 120°
maxTRX Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, falopa said: ...The most efficient way to get to a point is a straight line... Sure... and that straight line can get you shot to pieces I don't know what scenarios you're talking about but... just make your flight plan (with waypoints) and follow it
Harker Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 If you start it early enough, CPL should fly the jet to intercept and settle on the courseline, towards the waypoint. AFAIK, you don't get to choose the distance this will happen, unless you are in a position that will make it happen, when you engage CPL.If you want to arrive exactly 10 NM from the waypoint, on the courseline, you should either use another WP or an OAP (offset), which will come after 2.7, and fly towards that first, with CPL. 1 The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
norman99 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, falopa said: My question is then, why only course? Shouldn't distance and course be indicated instead? The simple answer is "because that's all the real aircraft can do". Remember, ED are not designing a new navigation system themselves, they're simply recreating the systems of a real aircraft. I'm not sure of the Hornet specifics, but most aircraft have systems that are designed to intercept a course with a set/max intercept angle. Something in the 30°-60° range would be normal. Distance doesn't usually enter the equation. If it's vitally important to be on track for a set distance, than simply create an additional waypoint where needed. Edited April 9, 2021 by norman99 1
Bunny Clark Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, falopa said: My question is then, why only course? Shouldn't distance and course be indicated instead? As others have mentioned, if you want to arrive at a point a certain distance and heading from a waypoint, that's what the Offset Waypoint function is for - which we don't have yet. Setting a Course line for a Waypoint or TACAN station is only intended to facilitate overflying that point while on a specified course. This is useful for things like arriving at the carrier on BRC, overflying an airport on runway heading, or intercepting a tanker flying the same heading they are, for example. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards
SUBS17 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Coupled Auto-pilot was always on the Hornet since the first block but the US Navy was not aware of it until a year ago when someone pointed it out that it is on there. BTW the coupled mode was already on the SuperHornet and pilots used it but they did not know that the Hornet already had it but had not switched it on. Edited April 9, 2021 by SUBS17 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
maxTRX Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, SUBS17 said: Coupled Auto-pilot was always on the Hornet since the first block but the US Navy was not aware of it until a year ago when someone pointed it out that it is on there. BTW the coupled mode was already on the SuperHornet and pilots used it but they did not know that the Hornet already had it but had not switched it on. No, that's not it... no aviator uses sissy nav modes However, these days...
SUBS17 Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 23 hours ago, Gripes323 said: No, that's not it... no aviator uses sissy nav modes However, these days... It is absolute precision when it comes to a flight plan. And there is more technology coming where every landing is the No3 wire and every refueling is flawless and automatic. Navigation can be stressful for a pilot particularly if something isn't working so coupled autopilot is an extremely good feature. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
maxTRX Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, SUBS17 said: It is absolute precision when it comes to a flight plan. And there is more technology coming where every landing is the No3 wire and every refueling is flawless and automatic. Navigation can be stressful for a pilot particularly if something isn't working so coupled autopilot is an extremely good feature. Sure, the basic A/P modes are there for a reason. You never know when something comes up just before hitting the turn point and you have to fumble through some cards or type on the scratch pad, especially in a single seat fighter. Try not to fall asleep on those long hauls with the jet flying itself. Lots of coffee before T/O or... pills, whatever it takes.
norman99 Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 On 4/10/2021 at 3:38 AM, SUBS17 said: Coupled Auto-pilot was always on the Hornet since the first block but the US Navy was not aware of it until a year ago when someone pointed it out that it is on there. BTW the coupled mode was already on the SuperHornet and pilots used it but they did not know that the Hornet already had it but had not switched it on. I'm curious where you got this information from.... The Navy simply being unaware of a basic feature of there own jet is something I struggle to believe. 1
maxTRX Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 14 hours ago, norman99 said: I'm curious where you got this information from.... The Navy simply being unaware of a basic feature of there own jet is something I struggle to believe. You can stop struggling Now on a side note, in my previous post I mentioned the possibility of falling asleep... it happened to me recently, wearing a VR set on my head. I had about 120nm to go... I woke up when 'Atltitude' warning came on and had to turn around for an extra 60nm. If I had only used CPL A/P...
Stearmandriver Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 Sissy nav modes? Like INS and GPS? I mean if you wanna do it right, where's your plotting board and bubble octant? Personally, I was annoyed when I first came to DCS that something as basic as coupled steering wasn't implemented. I am glad we finally got there lol. As for the Navy "not knowing" about coupled steering until last year... man, I don't know where he got that idea, but I hope they didn't go on to sell him on anything ;). Even setting aside the ridiculousness of the notion that after the whole clean-sheet design process, and the test flight and acceptance testing, anything about the jet would remain mysterious to the Navy... have you ever met pilots? They're simultaneously lazy, and incorrigible button-pushers. Any fleet pilot would have played "hey, what's this do?" and discovered that mode within 10 minutes of becoming airborne. 1
maxTRX Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said: Sissy nav modes? Like INS and GPS? I mean if you wanna do it right, where's your plotting board and bubble octant? No but I've been doing a lot of dead reckoning in DCS, especially on Syrian map. After flying in the same 'block' for days, I'd just follow the roads and hills, ravines w/o looking at HSI once. Occasionally glanced at SA if I heard a chirp or beeps.
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