Idle thoughts....

[Recluse]

Just wondering why there is no HOOK indicator on the HUD, and the COMMS with the LSO never includes a "LOWER YOUR HOOK" in the event that it is not down or didn't deploy.

 

Nothing more frustrating than boltering because I never put the Hook down. Not to mention the DOWNCHECK for failing to follow the checklist.

 

 

I realize that the Hornet cockpit is a much smaller place than it seems in my 2D monitor representation, so possibly the HOOK handle position and indicator is more than enough of a reminder to the absent minded pilot.

 

Seems like the kind of warning indication that would be useful.

[_Spad_]

Your AoA indicator will flash if your hook isn't down. So long as your hook bypass is set to carrier.

[maxTRX]

Also, isn't one the LSO helpers supposed to watch the jets approaching the abeam position and check for gear and hook down?

[maxTRX]

Well, another idle thought related to this.

In case III approach:   Do the AOA lights on nose gear blink, same as indexer next to HUD when the bypass switch is in carrier? I assume they do.  Still, the bypass switch might be on 'field', hehe.

Checklists, checklists...

[Tholozor]

In many cases I see carrier aircraft putting their hooks down long before they get signal Charlie. You'll see aircraft with hooks down before even entering the stack, too.

[Recluse]

1 hour ago, _Spad_ said:

Your AoA indicator will flash if your hook isn't down. So long as your hook bypass is set to carrier.

 

I did not know that..... thanks!! NOW I know why it was blinking.. 

 

I usually put the hook down when entering the pattern, but when I take off and immediately turn downwind, I often forget the hook.

 

 

[maxTRX]

1 hour ago, Tholozor said:

In many cases I see carrier aircraft putting their hooks down long before they get signal Charlie. You'll see aircraft with hooks down before even entering the stack, too.

Yea,

Another thing is, in RW or in DCS, people that do the full startup, pre-taxi and other checklists will lower the hook, open the refueling probe, etc. When the hook is lowered the bypass switch snaps to 'carrier' and stays there until it's flipped up manually to 'field'. (electrically held, if I remember correctly). So, on the boat there is no need to flip it back to field and if you forget to lower the hook on approach and drop the gear... the AOA indexer flashing is right in your face.

 

[TimRobertsen]

10 hours ago, Gripes323 said:

In case III approach:   Do the AOA lights on nose gear blink, same as indexer next to HUD when the bypass switch is in carrier?

They do  

Regardless of Case I, II or III. As long as the switch is in Carrier.

They are repeater-lights, so they simply repeat the cockpit-indicator.

[maxTRX]

4 hours ago, TimRobertsen said:

They do  

Regardless of Case I, II or III. As long as the switch is in Carrier.

They are repeater-lights, so they simply repeat the cockpit-indicator.

Yes, I know they do. It was just one of those idle thoughts making their way to my keyboard too quick

And... of course it doesn't matter on the type of approach. In case 1 though, if your bypass switch was on 'field', you would most likely get a casual reminder from the boat.

In case III, you wouldn't.

[TimRobertsen]

9 hours ago, Gripes323 said:

In case III, you wouldn't.

Well, actually, if I'm not too wrong, on some of the blocks, the hook was illuminated. So the boat would actually see if the hook was down or not

 

I meant no offense/denigration with my comment, consider it a sunday-idle-response  

[maxTRX]

9 minutes ago, TimRobertsen said:

Well, actually, if I'm not too wrong, on some of the blocks, the hook was illuminated. So the boat would actually see if the hook was down or not

 

I meant no offense/denigration with my comment, consider it a sunday-idle-response  

 

Offence?!  are you kidding me?  Casual chitchats like this are always good. Good for learning or re-learning.

It would make sense to have a little light there... Do we have it in DCS? I guess I'll fire it up now just to check... be back.  

[maxTRX]

8 minutes ago, Gripes323 said:

 

Offence?!  are you kidding me?  Casual chitchats like this are always good. Good for learning or re-learning.

It would make sense to have a little light there... Do we have it in DCS? I guess I'll fire it up now just to check... be back.  

No, we don't.  Anyways, it would probably be no good in the pea soup at night, so... back to checklists 

[TimRobertsen]

13 hours ago, Gripes323 said:

 

Offence?!  are you kidding me?  Casual chitchats like this are always good. Good for learning or re-learning.

It would make sense to have a little light there... Do we have it in DCS? I guess I'll fire it up now just to check... be back.  

 

Not as far as I know. If my memory isn't too off (which it usually is:p) the was only on some of the earlier blocks. It seems smart to have it, but I guess they, for some reason, found it to not be usefull:p

 

I have no idea where I read about this. I have a feeling it was in the Natops, but I haven't got a clue as to which section. I think I just stumbled upon it while I was reading about/looking for something else  (which is typically how I find out about most stuff)

Edited April 12, 2021 by TimRobertsen