Landing procedure - need help with push time

[zika1234]

I am trying ro understand push time

.. I am at a mission its 10:59:00 and after contacting tower i get cat3 approach.. Tower replies with push time od 01...i am not sure at what time i am supposed to depart orbit. Also my own reply reports push time at 0..is it a bug? Does tower tell me to depart at 11:01?

 

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[Tango Lima]

Yes but on the correct reference point.

Ref. CNATRA P-816 (01-14) CV PROCEDURES(UMFO)T–45C 2014, Page 2-12

For Case II and III recoveries, Marshal will give holding instructions and an expected approach time (push time).

Marshal-“405, Mother’s weather is 1,500 overcast, visibility 5 miles,altimeter 29.87. Case II recovery. Marshal on the 160, 22, angels 7. BRC is 015, Expected approach time 22.

Reference Point is
Radial inbound 340°/160° at 22 DME angels 7 (7000 feet) 22 time and start the Case 2/3 Approach Profile

In your case 11:01

Regards
Tango Lima/Scorpion

Edited April 24, 2021 by Thomas Loeffelmann

[Slant]

On 4/24/2021 at 7:54 AM, zika1234 said:

 

I am trying ro understand push time

.. I am at a mission its 10:59:00 and after contacting tower i get cat3 approach.. Tower replies with push time od 01...i am not sure at what time i am supposed to depart orbit. Also my own reply reports push time at 0..is it a bug? Does tower tell me to depart at 11:01?

 

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Push times are minutes on the hour. You need to be at your commence point (the hold fix) at :01 (whatever the hour is) and beginn your commence.

[zika1234]

But if i am 40 miles from orbit and its 10:59 i am not going to make it

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[Slant]

16 hours ago, zika1234 said:

But if i am 40 miles from orbit and its 10:59 i am not going to make it

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This is correct. I don't know why it happened like that, so I cannot comment. But they shouldn't give you that push time. IF for some reason they plan to keep you in the marshal stack for 1 hour and 2 minutes (never heard of that myself, but I suppose it could happen), they would have to give you the full time and not just the minutes (I presume, ths is me speculating). It doesn't make sense to me.

 

Did you maybe go the wrong way? How did you end up at 40 miles? Or were you already on course to the carrier?

Edited April 26, 2021 by Slant

[hreich]

I was 50-ish miles from carrier when i called inbound...

Edited April 26, 2021 by hreich

[Nealius]

Something's funky with the push times you get when there are no other aircraft in the queue. I tend to wait until I'm 5~10nm from my anticipated Marshal before reporting inbound.