reported MIG29 Campaign Over the Hump AI issues

[Convexrook]

Some how every time the AI gets back to the airfield they are struggling to land. This gets to the point where they run out of fuel and crash.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi,

 

do you have a track replay by any chance?

 

thanks

[Iriya]

Today, I played Over the hump (Strike Escort #7 mission) for a first time in a long time, in latest DCS open beta version.

Nalchik airbase has a lot of objects now. taxiway has blocked by ton of containers, box and trucks.

Simply I and wingmen cannot taxi to runway, wingmen explode hit by objects around.

 

Tacview-20210714-204243-DCS-MiG-29S - Over the Hump - 7.zip.acmi

[Convexrook]

On 7/12/2021 at 9:02 AM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi,

 

do you have a track replay by any chance?

 

thanks

no, All I see from watching after I land is the remaining wing men are trying to find a way to position over the last waypoint to get into landing position. In turn, the fly in circles above the runway until they are out of fuel then eject. I notice the objects are shifted in the world and end up on the taxi way. I fixed those in mission editor but still do not understand why the AI cannot land.

Edited July 19, 2021 by Convexrook

[MadDog-IC]

On 7/12/2021 at 11:02 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi,

 

do you have a track replay by any chance?

 

thanks

The issues has existed for a long time with the Nalchik Airbase:

 

Supplied track files of just AI 4 ship flight doing a long ferry flight with extra fuel tanks, when they all RTB you will see the problem.

 

1. Worse If flight is 4 ship with heavy loading (fuel pods and weapons close to max weight).
2. Worse also with 4 ship flight, if any of the AI RTB on bingo fuel, they will never land successfully, as stated they just circle at end of airfield till they crash from no fuel.
3. Worst when other flight groups are holding and landing at Nalchik AFB.
4.  In testing, with a simple Mig29 4 ship flight with just 1, 2 or 3 fuel pods mounted and with max internal fuel, not one AI returns because of bingo fuel, they all stay in formation back to base as per the waypoints, flight lead and his wingman will land in pairs ok, but the other two wingman will do the circle dance and keep going to far right or left of the runway and then doing another circle to correct and doing the same mistake each time, when the 3 wingman crashes because of out of full, the 4th wingman will then land successfully.

 

Cheers, Ian.

Mig29 Over the Hump - 1 fuel pod & landing ok.trk Mig29 Over the Hump - 2 fuel pod & bad landing ok.trk

Edited July 27, 2021 by MadDog-IC

[BIGNEWY]

reported thanks

[BIGNEWY]

On 7/14/2021 at 1:06 PM, Iriya said:

Today, I played Over the hump (Strike Escort #7 mission) for a first time in a long time, in latest DCS open beta version.

Nalchik airbase has a lot of objects now. taxiway has blocked by ton of containers, box and trucks.

Simply I and wingmen cannot taxi to runway, wingmen explode hit by objects around.

 

Tacview-20210714-204243-DCS-MiG-29S - Over the Hump - 7.zip.acmi 294.22 kB · 2 downloads

 

reported thanks

[BIGNEWY]

Thanks AdrianL and thanks MadDog-IC