imacken Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Gryzor said: Motion Smoothing, whick is essential in DCS with VR, is completely awful in VP2. In fact, I returned VP due this. Well, Motion Smoothing is not available to the VP2, but certainly it’s Motion Compensation option is poor. Works very nicely with it switched off though. Works differently to Motion Smoothing when off as it still holds a steady 45 FPS rather than jumping around. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
dburne Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, imacken said: Well, Motion Smoothing is not available to the VP2, but certainly it’s Motion Compensation option is poor. Works very nicely with it switched off though. Works differently to Motion Smoothing when off as it still holds a steady 45 FPS rather than jumping around. Yep that is what I find as well. Actually I have moved to using 120 Hz with the VP2. My fps will typically be 40 on the carrier and 60 flying around, but still smooth and a good experience. If it drops down to 30 then I start noticing stutter so I try and keep it away from 30. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
imacken Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, dburne said: Yep that is what I find as well. Actually I have moved to using 120 Hz with the VP2. My fps will typically be 40 on the carrier and 60 flying around, but still smooth and a good experience. If it drops down to 30 then I start noticing stutter so I try and keep it away from 30. Yes, me too. I’ve found I’m almost always on 60, except on SC, of course! 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
dburne Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, imacken said: Yes, me too. I’ve found I’m almost always on 60, except on SC, of course! Yep about the same here as well. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
imacken Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, dburne said: Yep about the same here as well. It seems better performance all round at 120. Looks better and feels smoother to me. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Nahemoth Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, imacken said: Well, Motion Smoothing is not available to the VP2, but certainly it’s Motion Compensation option is poor. Works very nicely with it switched off though. Works differently to Motion Smoothing when off as it still holds a steady 45 FPS rather than jumping around. Maybe it is because the motion reprojection function of steamvr.
imacken Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nahemoth said: Maybe it is because the motion reprojection function of steamvr. Sorry, not sure what you mean. No SteamVR Motion Smoothing/Reprojection options are available to the VP2. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
dburne Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, imacken said: It seems better performance all round at 120. Looks better and feels smoother to me. Yeah same experience here as well. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Nahemoth Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, imacken said: Sorry, not sure what you mean. No SteamVR Motion Smoothing/Reprojection options are available to the VP2. I mean that, as far as I know, smoothing and reprojection are two different functions, and I guess that motion compensation refers to motion smoothing.
imacken Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, Nahemoth said: I mean that, as far as I know, smoothing and reprojection are two different functions, and I guess that motion compensation refers to motion smoothing. No, it doesn’t. Motion Smoothing is not switchable on in SteamVR for the VP2, and neither is Reprojection. Motion Compensation is available in Vive Console, but it doesn’t work well. See previous comments. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Nahemoth Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, imacken said: No, it doesn’t. Motion Smoothing is not switchable on in SteamVR for the VP2, and neither is Reprojection. Motion Compensation is available in Vive Console, but it doesn’t work well. See previous comments. I see, I supposed that motion reprojection option still appears for the VP2.
Nahemoth Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 I have just received the VP2, but I have some issues with the base stations, maybe not placed correctly. Need more time... My first impression with the FOV was really good...
Nahemoth Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 5:44 PM, imacken said: Well, Motion Smoothing is not available to the VP2, but certainly it’s Motion Compensation option is poor. Works very nicely with it switched off though. Works differently to Motion Smoothing when off as it still holds a steady 45 FPS rather than jumping around. On 8/22/2021 at 5:47 PM, dburne said: Yep that is what I find as well. Actually I have moved to using 120 Hz with the VP2. My fps will typically be 40 on the carrier and 60 flying around, but still smooth and a good experience. If it drops down to 30 then I start noticing stutter so I try and keep it away from 30. Don't you see any ghosting/stuttering due to the halved FPS? Mainly at low altitude looking to the trees and buildings on your side.
dburne Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nahemoth said: Don't you see any ghosting/stuttering due to the halved FPS? Mainly at low altitude looking to the trees and buildings on your side. Nope not at all as long as it maintains min of 40 fps. At least not enough to be noticeable to me. If it should drop down to 30 fps then yes I do see some of that, but I have my settings where I can maintain that min of 40 fps. As previously mentioned I do not use Vive's Motion Compensation, it looks horrid in the Vive Pro 2 to me. Edited August 27, 2021 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Nahemoth Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 8 hours ago, dburne said: Nope not at all as long as it maintains min of 40 fps. At least not enough to be noticeable to me. If it should drop down to 30 fps then yes I do see some of that, but I have my settings where I can maintain that min of 40 fps. As previously mentioned I do not use Vive's Motion Compensation, it looks horrid in the Vive Pro 2 to me. I also notice ghosting during dogfights, and trying to identify terrain objectives becomes quite hard. I manage for getting 45 FPS (based on the Speed-of-heat settings), but something seems to be wrong. I guess you measure the FPS with fpsVR tool. Do you use Kegetys or FSR mods? Could you share your main settings?
imacken Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 From what you said in another thread, I think you’re SS is too high. Can I suggest we move this discussion to the main VP2 one as we are way OT here? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Nahemoth Posted August 28, 2021 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, imacken said: From what you said in another thread, I think you’re SS is too high. Can I suggest we move this discussion to the main VP2 one as we are way OT here? Sure, I want to do some more tests later on, and I move to the other thread.
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