Tormox Posted September 28, 2021 Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) According to manuals, the AN/APG-68v5 should include a radar sub-mode called Long Range Search (LRS) which offers the same symbology and functions as RWS but it should be optimized for long range target detection. If confirmed to be applicable to the modeled Viper, it would furtherly deepen the simulation of the F-16's radar. Edited September 28, 2021 by Tormox 8 1 Rivet Counter Hardware: Intel Core i5 4690 @ 3.50 GHZ | ASUSTeK B85M-G | NVidia GeForce GTX 960 2047MB | 8GB RAM DDR3
TEOMOOSE Posted October 8, 2021 Posted October 8, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 6:23 AM, Tormox said: According to manuals, the AN/APG-68v5 should include a radar sub-mode called Long Range Search (LRS) which offers the same symbology and functions as RWS but it should be optimized for long range target detection. If confirmed to be applicable to the modeled Viper, it would furtherly deepen the simulation of the F-16's radar. Do you mean, Velocity Search (VS) radar mode ?
Tormox Posted October 9, 2021 Author Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 23 ore fa, llOPPOTATOll ha scritto: Its called VSR (Velocity Search and Ranging) or LRS (Long Range Search) depending on what manual you look at. Appearently they are not the same thing. According to the GR1F-16CJ-34-1-1, VSR and LRS are two different submodes. Whereas VSR interleaves PRF and scans for target according to velocity, LRS is defined basically as a long-range optimization of RWS, so that all controls and symbology are the same. If you have the manual, you can check that they appear not to be the same submode. Edited October 9, 2021 by Tormox 1 Rivet Counter Hardware: Intel Core i5 4690 @ 3.50 GHZ | ASUSTeK B85M-G | NVidia GeForce GTX 960 2047MB | 8GB RAM DDR3
Frederf Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 In APG-68 you either have VS or VSR depending on how new the radar is, VSR being newer. The extended range scan is either LRS or ULS. I'm not 100% sure which of the two (LRS/ULS) the DCS variant would have. But they are modified RWS formats. ULS is designed without filtering for uplook situations. LRS scans slower and is optimized for the 80-160nm ranges against large targets. The old VS positioned the contacts vertically on the B scope based on closure velocity like the F-14/AWG-9. The newer VSR positions vertically based on range. The APG-68(V)5 in DCS is either going to be RWS/LRS/VSR/TWS or RWS/ULS/VSR/TWS. 1 3
Comrade Doge Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 On 10/11/2021 at 7:57 PM, Frederf said: In APG-68 you either have VS or VSR depending on how new the radar is, VSR being newer. The extended range scan is either LRS or ULS. I'm not 100% sure which of the two (LRS/ULS) the DCS variant would have. But they are modified RWS formats. ULS is designed without filtering for uplook situations. LRS scans slower and is optimized for the 80-160nm ranges against large targets. The old VS positioned the contacts vertically on the B scope based on closure velocity like the F-14/AWG-9. The newer VSR positions vertically based on range. The APG-68(V)5 in DCS is either going to be RWS/LRS/VSR/TWS or RWS/ULS/VSR/TWS. We should probably get LRS + VSR since it's the APG68v5, but so far no word from ED about LRS...
llOPPOTATOll Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Comrade Doge said: We should probably get LRS + VSR since it's the APG68v5 We should have ULS, not LRS
Comrade Doge Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, llOPPOTATOll said: We should have ULS, not LRS Isn't ULS for the APG68v7?
llOPPOTATOll Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Comrade Doge said: Isn't ULS for the APG68v7? Ive never seen the APG-68(v)7 referenced outside of that image. But the (v)5 definitely has it 1
Comrade Doge Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, llOPPOTATOll said: Ive never seen the APG-68(v)7 referenced outside of that image. But the (v)5 definitely has it If the v5 has it, that's great! I hope ED will add it to the roadmap.
Dragon1-1 Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 ULS is basically the equivalent of flipping the MLC switch in the Tomcat. It's not a huge increase in range, but it could come in handy on a few occasions. Note that it's best used for interception, as you really don't want to be in an uplook situation in most cases when you're doing BVR combat. During an interception you might have no choice, and in any case, you want to see the target ASAP as you're climbing up to it. I'd like to see it, but TBH, I never used it in the other sim, which IIRC models it.
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