Jayhawk1971 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I think I've read - many moons ago, so I don't recall where, or what the specifics were - that degradation of the propellant became a problem over time, which decreased reliability of the Phoenix. Whether that's true or a "sea story", I have no way of knowing. Edited January 22, 2022 by Jayhawk1971
Gunslinger22 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jayhawk1971 said: I think I've read - many moons ago, so I don't recall where, or what the specifics were - that degradation of the propellant became a problem over time, which decreased reliability of the Phoenix. Whether that's true or a "sea story", I have no way of knowing. I think you’ll find this applies to quite literally any rocket motor and its fuel source. Edited January 22, 2022 by Gunslinger22 "I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude."
Jayhawk1971 Posted January 22, 2022 Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) vor 22 Minuten schrieb Gunslinger22: I think you’ll find this applies to quite literally any rocket motor and its fuel source. Would it have been possible to replace the propellant after a certain time period, or were those things sealed tight? I mean one would assume that the guidance package was the expensive stuff on the missile, and too valuable to waste simply because some chemicals decide to diffuse. BTW, my comment was referring to this, hence I was wondering if the propellant was what may have caused the "temperamental" part. vor 1 Stunde schrieb westr: Or was it a case of towards the end of the missiles life cycle they become more and more temperamental. Edited January 22, 2022 by Jayhawk1971
Comstedt86 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Afaik the two motor failures were because of improper handling/mounting by ground crew. 6
eatthis Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 On 12/20/2021 at 7:47 PM, nighthawk2174 said: They've already said it will be changing to have command inertial like the amraam. what is command inertial? short version is fine. 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
near_blind Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, eatthis said: what is command inertial? short version is fine. More or less 2
Comstedt86 Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, eatthis said: what is command inertial? short version is fine. If you loose a TWS lock for instance it can guide itself to calculated intercept location and go active on it's own. Could perhaps lead to more instances of where the missile will go active instead of being trashed. It will also be able to do so without the specific command coming from the AWG9/WCS. And perhaps in STT it will be guided much like an AMRAAM. With midcourse guidance and then active in the last phase instead of a Fox 1 all the way. (Altough I am not 100% sure on this)
eatthis Posted January 27, 2022 Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, near_blind said: More or less HAHA SIMPLE 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
sprak74 Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 Bump, will there been any upcoming improvements/adjustments to the aim-54c? such as adjustments to the motor burn time, kinematics and its own ability to go active? it feels very underpowered against the mk60. 2
DSplayer Posted May 28, 2022 Author Posted May 28, 2022 8 hours ago, sprak74 said: Bump, will there been any upcoming improvements/adjustments to the aim-54c? such as adjustments to the motor burn time, kinematics and its own ability to go active? it feels very underpowered against the mk60. HB was going to give an update on possible discoveries relating to the AIM-54C a couple months back but nothing came out yet. 1 Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Resources I've Made: F-4E RWR PRF Sound Player | DCS DTC Web Editor Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Spurts Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 18 hours ago, sprak74 said: it feels very underpowered against the mk60. It IS underpowered against the mk60, the mk60 has the biggest motor.
Comstedt86 Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, Spurts said: It IS underpowered against the mk60, the mk60 has the biggest motor. Isn't it worse than A47 kinematically as well?
Panny Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Comstedt86 said: Isn't it worse than A47 kinematically as well? Yup, not by much, but the C is heavier which impacts it a little Website | Digital Coalition Air Force | Discord CPU: AMD R9950X \ Mobo: MSI MPG X670E Gaming Carbon WiFi \ RAM: Corsair Vengeance 96GB 6000MT/s \ GPU: RTX 5090 \ Various SSDs
DSplayer Posted May 31, 2022 Author Posted May 31, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 1:29 PM, Panny said: Yup, not by much, but the C is heavier which impacts it a little The Mk47 motor on the AIM-54C does have a weaker impulse than the motor on the AIM-54A-Mk47. That combined with the increased weight causes the missile to perform worse than the AIM-54A-Mk47 kinematically. Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Resources I've Made: F-4E RWR PRF Sound Player | DCS DTC Web Editor Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
turkeydriver Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, DSplayer said: The Mk47 motor on the AIM-54C does have a weaker impulse than the motor on the AIM-54A-Mk47. That combined with the increased weight causes the missile to perform worse than the AIM-54A-Mk47 kinematically. This is in game only. THe specifics of the C allow it to fly a much better profile to a target. I suppose against a non maneuvering STT max range shot- an A might outperform it, but thats it really. IRL the C is a much much better missile than the A. VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk
sprak74 Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 19 hours ago, turkeydriver said: This is in game only. THe specifics of the C allow it to fly a much better profile to a target. I suppose against a non maneuvering STT max range shot- an A might outperform it, but thats it really. IRL the C is a much much better missile than the A. I hope that's the case, currently the C variant is the weakest out of all of them, it doesn't sit well with me that an older version can overperform a new upgraded and modern version. 1
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