Hardly any difference after upgrade

[Dave317]

I've just changed from an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.1 ghz with 24gb of very old slow ddr3 ram to an i7 11700k with 64 gb of 3200mhz ddr4 ram. 

There is virtually no difference in fps or frame time at all which is disappointing.  Even when I ran a benchmark program before and after the old system just beats it. 

Is there some settings I need to be changing to get the best out of this new processor? 

I'm running an Amd 6800xt as well. 

[Hawkeye_UK]

DCS is not optimised that well, have you got xmt2 on in bios?

Edited October 10, 2021 by Hawkeye_UK

[Dave317]

It's the benchmark test that's more disappointing really. 

Xmp just says auto.  I've got a new motherboard so I haven't touched any settings on that at all. 

[jonsky7]

It kind if depends on what benchmark you were using. If it's a graphics benchmark then they are pretty much designed to test the GFX card, so you won't see much difference if you don't change your graphics card.

 

I'd highly recommend digging into the Bios for your new mobo though. Think you will probably have to select XMP.2 to get the absolute best out of your new Ram.

 

Definitely have a look to make sure Intel Speed boost is enabled.

 

We might need more info, board type etc, or some pics of current settings to be of more help.

[Dave317]

It was the unigine heaven benchmark.  Not sure if that only really tests the gpu or not. 

I'll take a look in the bios but it's a asus prime z590-p wifi board. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Dave317

[Lurker]

21 hours ago, Dave317 said:

It was the unigine heaven benchmark.  Not sure if that only really tests the gpu or not. 

I'll take a look in the bios but it's a asus prime z590-p wifi board. 

 

 

One google search will tell you that's a heavy GPU benchmark. You should be getting much better performance in DCS World (I used to have the 3570K, and while it's a great processor, it really is long in the tooth)

[xoxen]

Hi Dave,

I made the same experience in DCS. If your GPU already worked at the limit, a new CPU does not make it faster. Please have a look at my thread over here

 

Link to my thread

 

Maybe it is helpful and shows my disappointment when I did my upgrade. Don´t get me wrong with the final change of the GPU, for me the AMD card was not benefitial because of the high resolution I´m running DCS with. What resolution are you running it?

Take care and heads up,

Xoxen

[Thinder]

On 10/10/2021 at 2:53 PM, Dave317 said:

I've just changed from an i5 3570k overclocked to 4.1 ghz with 24gb of very old slow ddr3 ram to an i7 11700k with 64 gb of 3200mhz ddr4 ram. 

There is virtually no difference in fps or frame time at all which is disappointing.  Even when I ran a benchmark program before and after the old system just beats it. 

Is there some settings I need to be changing to get the best out of this new processor? 

I'm running an Amd 6800xt as well. 

 

Once again we have absolutely NO information on one of the most important details when it comes to performances, for both Intel and AMD. RAM

 

We need: Frequency. CAS/Cl and number of ranks per sticks.Details  about the nature of the chips is not necessary as the material changes from a CAS number to a lower CAS number.

 

AMD upgrade from a 3600X to a 5600X with a decent Cl16 Kit (but not optimum) gave me a 21% increase in overal performance at 4K, it should be the case for an Intel ot there about, there are reasons for this not to happen and the RAM bottlenecks are one of them.

[jonsky7]

On 10/10/2021 at 6:35 PM, Dave317 said:

It was the unigine heaven benchmark.  Not sure if that only really tests the gpu or not. 

I'll take a look in the bios but it's a asus prime z590-p wifi board. 

 

 

The Bios manual for your board can be found here https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/13MANUAL/PRIME_PRO_TUF_GAMING_Intel_500_Series_BIOS_EM_WEB_EN.pdf

 

You should be able to enable XMP memory profile by going to this page, I believe it's in the Ai Overclock tuner, as the information says at the bottom of the page, XMP1 loads the memory timings from the data stored on the memory itself but lets the motherboard choose some settings, and XMP2 loads all the info from the memory module.

 

I don't mean to insult your intelligence at all, you haven't really disclosed how familiar you are with playing with these settings.

 

If you have a good cooler on your CPU you could also try setting the ASUS Multicore Enhancement to enabled see page 15 of the manual.
 

[Dave317]

After a bit of tweaking and turning XMP2 on it now runs much better than before.  I have just flown a P51 bomber escort mission with about 50 B17's in the air plus fighter escorts and it was very smooth.  My old CPU/RAM could not run this at all.  I'm very glad I went with 64 GB of ram too.  Syrian is using over 40!

[LucShep]

4 hours ago, Dave317 said:

After a bit of tweaking and turning XMP2 on it now runs much better than before.  I have just flown a P51 bomber escort mission with about 50 B17's in the air plus fighter escorts and it was very smooth.  My old CPU/RAM could not run this at all.  I'm very glad I went with 64 GB of ram too.  Syrian is using over 40!

 

Now you get it. 
 

[BitMaster]

Yep, just hit the button on my 64GB kit.

 

64 is the new 32