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Rheostat (Air Ministry Dimmer) and Leo Bodnar Wiring


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Posted (edited)

Hi Chaps,

I could do with some help regarding the wiring of an old Air Ministry Dimmer Switch.

I was hoping that it might register like a potentiometer, however as expected it isn't being acknowledged by my Leo Bodnar Board.

Any advice would be welcome.

Pictures to follow... sorry for the image quality....

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I could strip out the internals and hook up a potentiometer but that would be sacrilege. 

Edited by Krupi

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I was inspecting it earlier and I can't see how the wiper connects to the contact (white wire). You can see the Solder and wires from the coil on the other contacts. 

Unfortunately my multimeter died on me the other day so I haven't had the chance to do a proper check. 

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Posted (edited)

Have you got a type number?
It looks a lot like it's just an on/off switch to me.

OH, and if I'm right, STOP USING IT!!!

It looks like the metal bar connects the centre wire to the other two, so you might be shorting your Bodnar card power supply!

Edited by No1sonuk
Posted
3 minutes ago, crash test pilot said:

Hi! I found this online

https://www.blunham.com/Radar/SignalsMuseum/PDFs/AP1095.pdf

 

and pages 286 and following state it is a potentiometer, but your picture does not show the wire coil - maybe it is missing? Anyway, hope this may be helpful...

Cheers!

Nice find.

Definitely looks like the actual rheostat is missing.

Even if it was intact, 50 ohms is way too low for a Bodnar card.

@Krupi:
You could do what I did with the starter buttons - use the original as a pattern to design and 3D print a version you can use.
See attached picture of my button which uses modern pushbutton switches.
 

ww2_button.png

Posted
1 hour ago, crash test pilot said:

Hi! I found this online

https://www.blunham.com/Radar/SignalsMuseum/PDFs/AP1095.pdf

 

and pages 286 and following state it is a potentiometer, but your picture does not show the wire coil - maybe it is missing? Anyway, hope this may be helpful...

Cheers!

That is absolutely fantastic, thank you so much!

The Rheostat is present, just my terrible phone camera... 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, No1sonuk said:

Nice find.

Definitely looks like the actual rheostat is missing.

Even if it was intact, 50 ohms is way too low for a Bodnar card.

@Krupi:
You could do what I did with the starter buttons - use the original as a pattern to design and 3D print a version you can use.
See attached picture of my button which uses modern pushbutton switches.
 

ww2_button.png

This is a slightly better picture...

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I can actually remove the rheostats winding. So if I 3D print the base and hook up a Potentiometer to the Wiper I will get the feeling of actually turning the dimmer and won't have to destroy anything in the process! 👌

Edited by Krupi

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Krupi said:

This is a slightly better picture...

 

I can actually remove the rheostats winding. So if I 3D print the base and hook up a Potentiometer to the Wiper I will get the feeling of actually turning the dimmer and won't have to destroy anything in the process! 👌

 

Ah. I see it now.

Yeah, a new base would be the way to go.  A standard pot will give a wider throw than the real one (270 degrees, rather than what looks like 180), but I don't think that's really a problem.

Posted (edited)

Success! 

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Designed the body. 

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Fortunate to have a friend with a 3D printer, rheostat winding fit perfectly! 

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Fit perfectly and it works, as it was only a prototype it was only a rough print and some parts have snapped now so a few small tweaks to improve the design.

Very happy as all I had was my old mans micrometre Not even digital 😅

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Edited by Krupi

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