Voiceattack and CTLD commands (or Vaicom)?

[Dangerzone]

Hi,

Just wondering what is the best way to automate CTLD commands (if any) using either voice attack, or VAICOM.

At present I'm going through each menu option and was hoping there's a better way. 

For instance, on one server if I want to pick up a crate I need to:

- Open the menu

- F10

- F3 (for CTLD menu)

- F7 (for CTLD Commands)

- F2 (for collect crate).

On another server, the menu's may be slightly different, such as F10- F4-F7-F2.

I'd love to just say "Collect Package" and have it pick it up without going through the menu options.  But I'm realising that I can't just do a simple command to execute what I'm chasing (because the menu options may be different) and was wondering if either VAICOM has a solution to this, or how other people handle CTLD with either Voice Attack or Vaicom?

I'm not sure - it may not even be possible with such dynamic menu's - but I just thought I'd see incase I'm missing anything. 

The only option I can think of at the moment is to have a different profile for each server/mission I play on.

[Bailey]

What I have done is automate them in VoiceAttack. Sample commands are:
"Load crate GAW"
"Drop crate GAW"
"Load crate 4YA"
"Drop crate 4YA"
I end the command with the server I am on. You can make the commands in your aircraft profile, a global profile, or a profile linked to the aircraft profile. 

[MAXsenna]

Well, if you want to use VAICOM, you can turn on "import", and VAICOM will add all available commands in a mission to the "keywords editor" with a preceding "action".
Then you are free to change the command to your liking or add an alias, (I always do that, so I can see the original command). To distinguish same command between servers, you can add the name of the server in the command, like Bailey suggests.

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[Sprool]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:44 AM, Bailey said:

What I have done is automate them in VoiceAttack. Sample commands are:
"Load crate GAW"
"Drop crate GAW"
"Load crate 4YA"
"Drop crate 4YA"
I end the command with the server I am on. You can make the commands in your aircraft profile, a global profile, or a profile linked to the aircraft profile. 

This doesnt work with ctld as it moves around the comms/F10 menu, depending on server, mission, airframe. I saw a voiceattack script where they guy first stated into voiceattack where the ctld option was, then the rest of the chained commands ran perfectly. I can set it all up to work in multiplayer but only if ctld is fixed on a same function key sa ive progranmmed.

 

[Bailey]

7 hours ago, Sprool said:

This doesnt work with ctld as it moves around the comms/F10 menu, depending on server, mission, airframe. I saw a voiceattack script where they guy first stated into voiceattack where the ctld option was, then the rest of the chained commands ran perfectly. I can set it all up to work in multiplayer but only if ctld is fixed on a same function key sa ive progranmmed.

 

It will work, you will just had to make the correct logic and be conscious about when to use the commands. This is some of the reasons why I add the server name to the end. If you fly multiple aircraft you can add the aircraft name too. Be creative with the patterns if you like. 

[MAXsenna]

On 3/9/2022 at 9:50 PM, Sprool said:

This doesnt work with ctld as it moves around the comms/F10 menu, depending on server, mission, airframe. I saw a voiceattack script where they guy first stated into voiceattack where the ctld option was, then the rest of the chained commands ran perfectly. I can set it all up to work in multiplayer but only if ctld is fixed on a same function key sa ive progranmmed.

 

This is where VAICOM should be handy, because it doesn't use the F10 menu in that way. So, if VAICOM can import the command, it will assign a value to it, and then you can change the phrase to whatever you want.
Have you tried that?

[Sprool]

No I dont have Viacom, I have a workaround in VA to name the position of ctld options at the start of a mission so commands know where to find it.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Sprool

[MAXsenna]

On 3/11/2022 at 12:03 AM, Sprool said:

No I dont have Viacom, I have a workaround in VA to name the position of ctld options at the start of a mission so commands know where to find it.

 

Ah! Get it, you can try it for free, but maybe not with the functions you'd need to test it.

[Sprool]

I'd probably look into getting it if it halps me use the Huey radios just via voice commands, Ive spent hours over the last few days trying to get VA profiles to work properly.

[MAXsenna]

17 hours ago, Sprool said:

I'd probably look into getting it if it halps me use the Huey radios just via voice commands, Ive spent hours over the last few days trying to get VA profiles to work properly.

Yeah, it works in the Huey. Worked very well with the included UN campaign. Flying the Argo campaign now, and it works good too, except that the campaign is not designed to be used with comms in general.
Cheers!

[jnr4817]

On 3/10/2022 at 5:03 PM, Sprool said:

No I dont have Viacom, I have a workaround in VA to name the position of ctld options at the start of a mission so commands know where to find it.

 

WHat is this workaround?

[MAXsenna]

BTW. VAICOM is now free and maintained by the community...

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[greyeagle787]

On 11/24/2021 at 2:57 AM, MAXsenna said:

Well, if you want to use VAICOM, you can turn on "import", and VAICOM will add all available commands in a mission to the "keywords editor" with a preceding "action".
Then you are free to change the command to your liking or add an alias, (I always do that, so I can see the original command). To distinguish same command between servers, you can add the name of the server in the command, like Bailey suggests.

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Never used the “Import F10 Menu” option. Could someone walk me thru how to set it up? Do I check the option for each mission or campaign or leave it checked all the time? Assuming then I need to create aliases etc. and run the “Finish” steps before entering the mission? Won’t I end up with a lot of unused commands when I stop flying a particular mission or end a campaign? If so, how to erase them? Also, How do I set up this option in MP? Thank for the Help!

[MAXsenna]

9 minutes ago, greyeagle787 said:

Never used the “Import F10 Menu” option. Could someone walk me thru how to set it up? Do I check the option for each mission or campaign or leave it checked all the time? Assuming then I need to create aliases etc. and run the “Finish” steps before entering the mission? Won’t I end up with a lot of unused commands when I stop flying a particular mission or end a campaign? If so, how to erase them? Also, How do I set up this option in MP? Thank for the Help!

I would argue that this function is mostly/only useful in missions that you fly often, like in MP.

Before a mission. Open the VAICOM control panel. Preferences, and check "Import F10 menu commands" or similar. When done with the mission, unchecked it. Or, like you wrote, you'll end up with A LOT of commands. 

All of these commands will have "action" in front of them in the keywords editor. So yes, you'd want to change/make an alias. Personally I keep them as they are, and make an alias so I can easily see which commands are imported, to easily clean them out. 

And, yes, you have to do the "Finish" step before they can be used. 

To be honest, I don't know if they work/how they are handled in, let's say Reflected's campaigns where the same F10 command are used in the menu in all the missions. Because these commands are assigned an ID. Not sure if that same ID is applied throughout the campaign. But if they are, that would be very useful. 

To delete, just go into the the Keywords Editor and delete, and fortunately, VAICOM is smart enough, that if you delete an "Action" command it will "jump" to the aliases, if there are any. 

Cheers! 

 

[Dangerzone]

How do the "Import F10" commands work on MP with different aircraft or spawns.

I've noticed for instance with CTLD - to pick up a create some spawns have it as F10-F4-F7-F1 and others may have it as F10-F4-F8-F1. 

Does VA know which aircraft is which and what to use - or will this cause conflicts?

[MAXsenna]

How do the "Import F10" commands work on MP with different aircraft or spawns.
I've noticed for instance with CTLD - to pick up a create some spawns have it as F10-F4-F7-F1 and others may have it as F10-F4-F8-F1. 
Does VA know which aircraft is which and what to use - or will this cause conflicts?

VAICOM (not VA) picks up the ID of the "final" command, and sends it directly.
It can do this because it doesn't use keypresses (radio menu) at all. That's why tracks, unfortunately, do not work.

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[greyeagle787]

7 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

I would argue that this function is mostly/only useful in missions that you fly often, like in MP.

Before a mission. Open the VAICOM control panel. Preferences, and check "Import F10 menu commands" or similar. When done with the mission, unchecked it. Or, like you wrote, you'll end up with A LOT of commands. 

So after I open the mission I need to go back into VAICOM to add alias’s and “finish”…then continue the mission and use voice in lieu of “options, take 10, take 2,etc”?

All of these commands will have "action" in front of them in the keywords editor. So yes, you'd want to change/make an alias. Personally I keep them as they are, and make an alias so I can easily see which commands are imported, to easily clean them out. 

When using the new commands, do I need to say “action” + the new command?

And, yes, you have to do the "Finish" step before they can be used. 

So I also have to memorize the new voice commands? Almost seems easier to just use the “options” prompt and then “F10,etc”

To be honest, I don't know if they work/how they are handled in, let's say Reflected's campaigns where the same F10 command are used in the menu in all the missions. Because these commands are assigned an ID. Not sure if that same ID is applied throughout the campaign. But if they are, that would be very useful. 

To delete, just go into the the Keywords Editor and delete, and fortunately, VAICOM is smart enough, that if you delete an "Action" command it will "jump" to the aliases, if there are any. 

Cheers! 

 

Thanks for all the great info! A few more questions above!

Just one more. Have to add the commands and “Finish” once you are logged into a MP server?

Edited May 8, 2023 by greyeagle787

[MAXsenna]

Thanks for all the great info! A few more questions above!
Just one more. Have to add the commands and “Finish” once you are logged into a MP server?

You can do the "Finish" step whenever you want. Even when in a mission. Good for testing actually.

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[greyeagle787]

So after missions are running is when I add aliases and Finish? Without an Alia’s I assume I have to use the word “action” and then the command as well as memorize them too? Seems like a lot of work when I could just keep using “options, take 10”!

[MAXsenna]

So after missions are running is when I add aliases and Finish? Without an Alia’s I assume I have to use the word “action” and then the command as well as memorize them too? Seems like a lot of work when I could just keep using “options, take 10”!

They commands are added when you load the mission.
Yes, you have to speak the command exactly as it is. That's why I always add aliases and remove the "action" part, and change it something that makes sense.
Like I wrote, it is usually only useful with commands in missions you repeat.
Sometimes it's just better to use the "Options Menu". YMMV.

Cheers!

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[greyeagle787]

5 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Sometimes it's just better to use the "Options Menu". YMMV.

Cheers!

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Many Thanks!!

Edited May 9, 2023 by greyeagle787