not planned and not realistic for version Agm-84 Harpoon

[Byly]

The F-16 of taiwan can carry the Harpoon, but the question is will our DCS F-16 be receiving the weapon in the future

[Northstar98]

3 minutes ago, Byly said:

The F-16 of taiwan can carry the Harpoon, but the question is will our DCS F-16 be receiving the weapon in the future.

Nope

It wouldn't be accurate for our F-16 either.

Edited January 14, 2022 by Northstar98

[d0ppler]

On 1/14/2022 at 6:44 PM, Northstar98 said:

Nope

It wouldn't be accurate for our F-16 either.

 

https://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article12.html
Here we can for example read that the Chiles Block 50 can use them. Why shouldn't "our" version not handle it?

[Northstar98]

43 minutes ago, d0ppler said:

https://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article12.html
Here we can for example read that the Chiles Block 50 can use them. Why shouldn't "our" version not handle it?

Chile operates the F-16CJ Block 50 (Peace Puma), not the CCIP upgraded F-16CM Block 50 (which only the USA and Turkey operates).

AFAIK Harpoon requires a special adapter and possible a software update for employment (and I'm not sure how readily available documentation on the latter is).

As for our module, see here, in particular this:

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Our Viper will be an F-16CM with the Common Configuration Implementation Program (CCIP) upgrade. We feel this to be the most versatile version of the F-16 with capabilities for SEAD, precision attack, close air support, and of course air-to-air. We will be taking great care though to develop a very accurate simulation of the F-16CM Block 50, roughly M4.2+, operated by the United States Air Force and Air National Guard circa 2007. Although we will include several FMS skins, all functions will be in regards to cited version.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Northstar98

[d0ppler]

Thanks for your brilliant reply, Northstar!

 

[FlankerKiller]

On 1/14/2022 at 12:42 PM, Byly said:

The F-16 of taiwan can carry the Harpoon, but the question is will our DCS F-16 be receiving the weapon in the future

The real question is could a Taiwanese  F-16 be modeled in DCS? Now that Ed and Heatblure are opening  the door to multiple  variants of the same airframe it would be really cool to have some different Vipers. Once the one we have is finished of course. 

[Northstar98]

15 hours ago, FlankerKiller said:

The real question is could a Taiwanese  F-16 be modeled in DCS? Now that Ed and Heatblure are opening  the door to multiple  variants of the same airframe it would be really cool to have some different Vipers. Once the one we have is finished of course. 

I'm guessing fairly difficult.

Taiwan operates the F-16AM/BM Block 20 MLU (which has a different engine, but should have a fair amount in common to our CCIP aircraft - this is the aircraft in the photo) and the F-16V Block 70 (which has an AESA RADAR and a lot of other upgrades).

Edited February 7, 2022 by Northstar98

[FlankerKiller]

Obviously  the block 70 is out. But, and F-16A block 20 shouldn't  have that much classified  information.  Also I think you misunderstood  me. Heatblur has stated  that it will offer different  versions  of the F-4 as separate  models.  I'm assuming with some kind of discount  for owning an F-4 already.  ED has already  done this with the A-10. That is what I'm proposing.  Aircraft  like the Viper have had such a long and varied service  life that they could  never  be properly  represented  by just one module. 

[Northstar98]

12 hours ago, FlankerKiller said:

Obviously  the block 70 is out. But, and F-16A block 20 shouldn't  have that much classified  information.

Well, if they can do a an F-16AM Block 20 MLU, that opens the door to plenty of other customers as well, such as Scandinavia.

There should be somewhat of a carry over between our CCIP aircraft and an AM/BM Block 20 MLU aircraft, but can't say for definite what.

The main issue though would be the engine (our aircraft uses the F110-GE-129, the AM Block 20 MLU uses the F100-PW-220).

12 hours ago, FlankerKiller said:

Also I think you misunderstood  me. Heatblur has stated  that it will offer different  versions  of the F-4 as separate  models.  I'm assuming with some kind of discount  for owning an F-4 already.  ED has already  done this with the A-10. That is what I'm proposing.

Yes, that's how I'd do it as well.

12 hours ago, FlankerKiller said:

  Aircraft  like the Viper have had such a long and varied service  life that they could  never  be properly  represented  by just one module. 

Definitely agreed.

Personally, while I accept it for what it is, the current module is somewhat in a weird place (to me it seems like it's both too modern and not modern enough, too modern in the sense that it pulls ahead of the 90s which DCS' assets mostly do a good job of representing, and not modern enough in that it doesn't have say for instance, SDBs), I would love to get an ODF era CG Block 40, and a Cold War A Block 15 would be the perfect counterpart to the 9-12 MiG-29 ED hopes to make.

[FlankerKiller]

Honestly, if/ when they ever get the F-16 we have in a good state, we need to put the pressure on for an A model, and maybe a 90's C model. I think we could get it too. Not for free mind you but there really isn't that much more ultra modern stuff to do. I think an A that can carry Harpoons would do well. New capability, and awesome pure Kinematics. 

[skywalker22]

https://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament_article12.html

Turkey`s and Oman`s block 50 uses AGM-84H. But this is not our F-16.

Edited March 14, 2022 by skywalker22

[FlankerKiller]

So the F-4 is getting multiple models. I think the Viper needs this to be considered a candidate for multiple models as well. I for one would definitely pay for some more Vipers. There are plenty of weapon options that were used on export jets that we don't have, there are Vipers optimized for low level penitration. And of course there are the A model hotrods. I just don't see how you can represent the Viper in one model one block.