joey45 Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 FFB will be great for Helicopters. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Eldur Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 19 hours ago, Diesel_Thunder said: To put that in perspective, an F/A-18C with two externals carries just over 14K of gas, while an F-14 with externals carries 20K. In DCS, if you are low fuel in either of those aircraft and go tank off an S3, you can get short filled as you take the S-3's fuel load down to it's minimum. Very noticeable in the Tomcat. What actually happens: During refuel, that S-3 violently pulls up with the crew ejecting, out of nowhere. I hope they'll get some AI cycles to be able to recognize when they should stop giving away fuel they need themselves to get back to the boat 1
Eldur Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 DISCLAIMER for the moderator team: I can't edit my posts on this board anymore, as soon as I click the text editor, my Firefox crashes instantly. That's why I double post now, would rather have merged it with the previous post myself. Feel free to do that edit for me if it makes the thread cleaner. 6 hours ago, sLYFa said: IRL the stick moves when you trim it, so you basically put the stick where you want it and use the trim hat to remove the force which is the opposite of what you do with a spring centered stick, where the stick is moved back to center while trimming. IMO that would already go a long way, not to mention trim release for helicopters. Couldn't care less about any shaking effects though. Totally nailed it and that's what happens in DCS, the only exceptions being the planes with DFCS, most prominent being the Hornet and Viper. That given, you can actually muscle-memory the thing which is impossible with non-FFB sticks as the stick's attitude depends on trim (unless you don't trim...) there whereas the FFB stick just shifts the force center. 6 hours ago, St4rgun said: Back in 2005 I used to have some Genius FFB stick and used with Condor soaring simulator for practice soaring for my IRL lessions. That was a blast, to just stand still on the field waiting for the winch and have my ailerons moved by the headwind and my stick moved with in sync with it... According to my knowledge the whole FFB era faded because of some mandatory royalty fees (patents). Right now I'm using VKB stick with curved extendsion and TM F16 grip. It's falwless and extremely precise, but for helos it would be nice to have some forced trim. As far as I have heard in various discussions, the original FFB patents of Immersion Corp expired in 2018. So that's maybe (I mean, I could be wrong) not an issue anymore. But even if - I guess the customers would pay the extra fee generated by patent licensing as this is probably the most common thing in tech industry anyway.
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