reported Orders to wingman #4

[84-Simba]

Hey there !

I think there is a logic problem in the orders you can give to the second element of a flight of 4 ships.

In most cases, #4 will follow #3 (like RTB, route or tanker orders) but he won't for engagment orders.

When you give #3 the order to engage air defenses, he will set up his run but #4 will stay in formation (and move to #3 spot in the formation)

And since you cannot give him the order directly, well, he's useless.

And when you order #3 to rejoin, #4 will break the formation, rejoin on #3 (with full burner) and then both will join up on lead.

I like the idea of having orders to pass on the second element only (not each wingman) but this need to be consistent on all orders.

Thx

[84-Simba]

Add to that that if #3 gets shot down you cannot issue any order to #4 individually.

He won't become #3 and so the only way to issue order is to order something to the whole flight.

[Ironhand]

Just to note, this applies to non-FC3 aircraft. In FC3 aircraft, for some reason, you still have direct control of wingnut 4. Don't know if the devs want TRK files, too.

Non-FC3:

 

FC3:

 

[NineLine]

Do we have a track of 4 ignoring commands, I will try to recreate, and there is some internal discussion on the FC3 differences, but for the original report, a track is always good.

 

[84-Simba]

My mission will be to long to be practical for you.

I'll have to set up a new quick flight.

In the meantime, if you want to try out yourself :

- set up a flight of 4,

- in the ME, define something as a primary target with the command ''engage on-route''

- in the air, give the order to 3 using the radio menu (I don't use easy comms)

You'll see that 3 will go along and 4 stay in formation.

Now if you tell 3 to rejoin, 4 will go gate and rejoin with 3 and then both will come back to you.

Same if you give the order to RTB.

4 will follow 3.

I don't mind having 4 following his sub-leader but it needs to stay consistent AND/OR being able to give him orders directly.

Finally, blow up 3 and 4 will follow you but you won't be able to give him orders apart of going flight orders and then call back 2.

[NineLine]

The comms menus are not consistent, I think the Hornet and Viper should be similar to the A-10C, So we do have a report for the all this, I added specific ones for the Viper and Hornet as well, so consider this reported. Thanks!