Number of FLARES wrong!

[Mike_Romeo]

6 hours ago, GumidekCZ said:

Open Your Eyes!

All pictures post by both of you AGAIN just confirms, Dekas correct texture!

Take a closer look




You dont have to count pixels to see that those are two completely different schemes. You can even put Dekas Texture over the photo and move and strech it how you want it but it wont fit.

Edited February 19, 2022 by Mike_Romeo

[GumidekCZ]

54 minutes ago, Mike_Romeo said:

Take a closer look




You dont have to count pixels to see that those are two completely different schemes. You can even put Dekas Texture over the photo and move and strech it how you want it but it wont fit.

 

And I am the only one, who likes to play with pixels?

Did you also take in mind, that the view on dispencers is here partialy obstructed by some parts of fuselage or something? May be because the buckets are sinked a littile into the fuselage.

On top of that, your drawing in the red squeare is not simillar to any known dispencer.

And if you would like to play with pixels, than what is this?:   

Can you see that? That the lower row of empty holes in bucket is thinner - very likely due to already mentioned sinked postition in fuselage.

Post without a single exlamation mark

And the pixle battle can go on ...

[Mike_Romeo]

Alright. I must admit that I might just saw what I wanted to saw. My bad.

[GumidekCZ]

On 2/15/2022 at 9:53 PM, GumidekCZ said:

Simple mathematics:

 

!!!STILL NOT FIXED!!! job for 1 minute

Edited July 25, 2022 by GumidekCZ

[Mike_Romeo]

I rather have a texture change to this:

On 2/18/2022 at 3:55 AM, uboats said:

here's countermeasure dispenser used by jf-17 we use as ref

16x2 and 18x2

 

[GumidekCZ]

1 hour ago, Mike_Romeo said:

I rather have a texture change to this:

 

somebody wants to cheat?

[Napillo]

6 hours ago, GumidekCZ said:

somebody wants to cheat?

read the whole thread - it's correct, even if the texture isn't.

[GumidekCZ]

46 minutes ago, Napillo said:

read the whole thread - it's correct, even if the texture isn't.

Yeah, I can read, everybody can read, but seems that only some have the gift of using the brain. Even Mike_Romeo get it, but than he just put here a joke with rather to have more FLARES than is in real and force the Deka to change the textures to match this made up number.

TEXTURE IS CORRECT, but number of FLARES is WRONG.

Edited July 25, 2022 by GumidekCZ

[GumidekCZ]

On 2/18/2022 at 3:55 AM, uboats said:

here's countermeasure dispenser used by jf-17 we use as ref

16x2 and 18x2

You CANT just use some picture with gear NEVER SEEN MOUNTED ON REAL PLANE.

Now, all available photos which are with high resolution enough, tell us, that Me and Dekas texure (If not been changed yet since my first post)  IS correct Im sorry.

- REAL JF-17 (empty)    - DEKA TEXTURE

Edited July 25, 2022 by GumidekCZ

[uboats]

I understand your concern and point.

but manual says 32 + 36 and it's different config for some of jf17 (there's photo). Texture was made based on photo of other jf17.

So, at this moment, i will follow the manual.

thanks

Edited July 26, 2022 by uboats

[GumidekCZ]

21 hours ago, uboats said:

I understand your concern and point.

but manual says 32 + 36 and it's different config for some of jf17 (there's photo). Texture was made based on photo of other jf17.

So, at this moment, i will follow the manual.

thanks

 

Can we see the manual, I mean the RW one? Link to it would be nice. Should be no problem for you to at least guide me, where I can find it. I expect that is not Classified, if you are able to use it for this sim.

[uboats]

22 minutes ago, GumidekCZ said:

Can we see the manual, I mean the RW one? Link to it would be nice. Should be no problem for you to at least guide me, where I can find it. I expect that is not Classified, if you are able to use it for this sim.

sorry, there's no public one. I don't know where you can find it online.

you might ask on defence.pk, afaik, there're users working for Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.

for modern aircraft, it's quite normal that manual can be a bit diff from the different lots.

 

[Mike_Romeo]

Deka is doing a Chinese JF-17 and not a Pakistan one. So there is a chance that the chinese ones are using the dispenser with more flares. Too bad there arent many chinese JF-17 pictures to confirm that.

[Tiger-II]

Watch and weep...

BOTH are fitted...

 

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Tiger-II

[AeriaGloria]

Even news channels use chucks and DCS screenshots without credit

 

You it time stamps though? I don’t think I see what you see

[Tiger-II]

nullHere... this is the 3 x something.

Interesting they put the PL-5s on pylons and not the wing tips.

[Napillo]

2 hours ago, Tiger-II said:

this is the 3 x something.

 

since that's 36, it must be the chaff. 

[AeriaGloria]

15 hours ago, Tiger-II said:

nullHere... this is the 3 x something.

Interesting they put the PL-5s on pylons and not the wing tips.

Common mistake especially if you rely on older materials that are more speculative. 
 

Where is this 3D model from? The Air Force promo didn’t have it, so I don’t know if it’s “official” in any capacity. 

[Iron Sights]

In my opinion, one thing I don’t want is any less flares. So I’m onboard with keeping it the way it is, based on the information they have. If anything, give me more capabilities, not less.

[Tiger-II]

2 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Common mistake especially if you rely on older materials that are more speculative. 
 

Where is this 3D model from? The Air Force promo didn’t have it, so I don’t know if it’s “official” in any capacity. 

It is a drone video overflying the real aircraft. You can see the dispensers in the overview of the aircraft from other angles. It's real; not a render or model.

2 hours ago, Iron Sights said:

In my opinion, one thing I don’t want is any less flares. So I’m onboard with keeping it the way it is, based on the information they have. If anything, give me more capabilities, not less.

I agree. They have access to the actual simulators, so they must be accurate.

[Mike_Romeo]

On 7/25/2022 at 10:12 PM, GumidekCZ said:

TEXTURE IS CORRECT, but number of FLARES is WRONG.

I found some pictures of the dispensers with the correct amount of 18 flares per box mounted on a Jeff.




Pictures are from a JF-17 on display at the Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

Here some more pictures of the particular jet. Appears to be a 2 seat Block 2 aircraft https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/chengdu-paic-fc-1-jf-17-and-grumman-super-7.1413/post-622783

[Mike_Romeo]

[Schmidtfire]

JF-17E Strike Thunder?

[My_Name_Jeff]

On 4/22/2024 at 2:23 PM, Schmidtfire said:

JF-17E Strike Thunder?

You gotta be more creative man. 

[GumidekCZ]

Another proof of max 28 FLARES count, NOT! 32 as DEKA claims.

Edited May 14, 2024 by GumidekCZ