mvsgas Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 So Rehn FTIT is more stable? What engine do you fly with? Thanks Nscode, I wonder why is there so little info on the YAK-141 and its engine Maybe we are looking on the wrong places To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
hitman Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Oh, come on now! Just because I'm a pilot, don't treat me like a no-nothing idiot! :smilewink: Jet engine efficiency can be described several ways: Cycle efficiency, which is what you're talking about. Propulsive efficiency, which I'm talking about, is based on how well the thrust of the engine approximates the airspeed of the jet - so a jet flying at M1.3 would have a high propulsive efficient engine if the airspeed of the exhaust equals M1.3 - something a high-bypass turbofan will never ever get to. Energy efficiency, which is the product of Cycle efficiency x Propulsive efficiency. While high-bypass turbofans might have a high cycle efficiency, they can never be propulsive efficient at high speed. Also, an afterburning section is no longer required to sustain mach speeds. i didn't mean it like that, but my point is this: you wouldn't put low bypass engines on large aircraft willingly, would you? else there would be no need of high bypass.off top of my head, the 747 generates 420k hp, right? im just saying... btw i like this discussion; i like learning about this stuff so bear with me... Edited October 3, 2010 by hitman
nscode Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 horses might pull your boat along the river, but they sure can't fly, so no point in comparing jet engines to horses. ;) It all depends on how you want to fly that airplane. B-52 uses a low bypass, and Concorde used a no-bypass ;) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
hitman Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) B52 is 50+ years old, and a (planned) upgrade thats been floating about is to high bypass engines. Dont they use turbojets instead?Same goes for the concorde, it used turbojets as well. 50's tech. and i dont know what you mean about the horses, but hp ISrelevant to efficiency. http://www.concordesst.com/powerplant.html edit:TF33 PW low bypass engines, I stand corrected. Edited October 3, 2010 by hitman
nscode Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I mean don't compare them to horses, compare them to mr. Newton :D And by no-bypass I do mean turbojet. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
mvsgas Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 F-35C CF-1 rolled out of the F-35 Final Finishes Facility in Fort Worth, Texas, recently in full color, as it received its highly accurate robot-applied coatings. CF-1 was flown flew fourteen times before entering an intensive period of ground testing. (See the F-35C image gallery for a photo of the left side of the aircraft.) US Marine Corps pilot Lt. Col. Matt Kelly completes the fiftieth flight for F-35 BF-2. The 1.3-hour flight, from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, involved performing acceleration and decelerations at 30,000 feet to test the air data system as well as flying quality test points and envelope expansion. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Exorcet Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 F-35 B axed by UK http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/10/19/348641/cameron-uk-to-swap-jsfs-to-carrier-variant-axe-harrier-and-nimrod.html Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
mvsgas Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 F-35 Anechoic Chamber Testing http://www.codeonemagazine.com/article.html?item_id=57 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 http://www.codeonemagazine.com/gallery_slideshow.html?item_id=955 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
epokha Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 F-35's are rubbish. http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html AMD 3600X- 32GB RAM - Gigabyte Geforce RTX 2080Ti - 512GB NVme Samsung 830 256Gb 840 256Gb SSD - Track IR 4.0 + TrackClip Pro - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - WarBRD base mount and extention - Simped F16/USB (Stolen!) - Thrustmaster T-flight pedals (spew) DCS KA-50 Blackshark 1 & 2; DCS P-51 Mustang; DCS A-10C Warthog; DCS UH-1 Huey; DCS F-86F; DCS Mi-8MTV2; DCS Mig-21bis; DCS: AV-8b; DCS: Spitfire IX; DCS: NS430; DCS: Combined Arms; Lock On Flaming Cliffs 3; Rise of Flight; IL2:1946;
mvsgas Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 F-35's are rubbish. http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html :huh: Oh no, I never heard of this before. I will express your concerns to the U.S. D.O.D. and other countries that plan to use the F-35 so they can go ahead and cancel/stop any further development or utilization of all the versions F-35. :pain::blink::smartass::D To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
topol-m Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 F-35's are rubbish. http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html I`m awaiting the following comments in eagerness :D Edit: mvsgas was faster than me :) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MoGas Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 :huh: Oh no, I never heard of this before. I will express your concerns to the U.S. D.O.D. and other countries that plan to use the F-35 so they can go ahead and cancel/stop any further development or utilization of all the versions F-35. :pain::blink::smartass::D They just should get the Carlo`s Flanker's :megalol: :doh:
nscode Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 They should, but they can't :( Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
104th_Cobra Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 F-35's are rubbish. http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html I had already read that series of documents. The rapid response to F-22 by the appearance of PAK-FA made redundant the F-35. Read: Assessing the Sukhoi PAK-FA http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2010-01.html PAK-FA, F-35, F-22 and “Capability Surprise” http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230210-1.html Flanker AESA Radars http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker-Radars.html#mozTocId533477 Russia’s PAK-FA versus the F-22 and F-35 http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-300309-1.html 104th Cobra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Anything you read on ausairpower is basically BS :) He makes statements based on some very suspiciously chosen values and capabilities for say, one side vs. the other. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
104th_Cobra Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Anything you read on ausairpower is basically BS :) He makes statements based on some very suspiciously chosen values and capabilities for say, one side vs. the other. You are right :) This data must be interpreted in the context of counter-intelligence. These guys on ausairpower can also be lobbying for any economic group with interests in related economic trades. John 18: 38 Pilate said: "What is truth?" 104th Cobra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) Not even. He's deliberately not using currently available real data for Russian missiles for example, nor correcting his articles. He gives non-existent capabilities to Russian planes, including some rather made up IRST capabilities, and effectively ignores stealth on the west side, as well as other advantages. Basically not ONLY does he not have access to classified information, he isn't even using the information that is available and unclassified - he's just using the most advantageous numbers for the Russian planes that he can find on the internet. Don't even need to bring counter-intelligence into it ... he's simply a dishonest liar :) Edited October 30, 2010 by GGTharos 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
104th_Cobra Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Yes, I assumed that he doesn't have access to real data. I noted that the data about Russian missiles wasn't very congruent. He's only spamming to draw attention on him. He do that for a living. 104th Cobra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 That is correct ... I -almost- wish I had a job like this guy. Almost :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
epokha Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 I stand corrected! :P AMD 3600X- 32GB RAM - Gigabyte Geforce RTX 2080Ti - 512GB NVme Samsung 830 256Gb 840 256Gb SSD - Track IR 4.0 + TrackClip Pro - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - WarBRD base mount and extention - Simped F16/USB (Stolen!) - Thrustmaster T-flight pedals (spew) DCS KA-50 Blackshark 1 & 2; DCS P-51 Mustang; DCS A-10C Warthog; DCS UH-1 Huey; DCS F-86F; DCS Mi-8MTV2; DCS Mig-21bis; DCS: AV-8b; DCS: Spitfire IX; DCS: NS430; DCS: Combined Arms; Lock On Flaming Cliffs 3; Rise of Flight; IL2:1946;
Antartis Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 White House Commission: Kill The F-35B A draft document issued by the two chairmen of the White House commission on reducing the federal deficit recommends scrapping the F-35B short-take-off, vertical landing (STOVL) fighter outright, along with the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, and curtailing production of the MV-22 Osprey as part of a 15 per cent DoD procurement cut. The proposals, contained in a supplement to a $3.8 trillion plan unveiled today, are not final and do not have any legislative force but represent another setback for the STOVL fighter. The F-35B is not the only Joint Strike Fighter version to be hit. The chairmen calls for production of the USAF F-35A and Navy F-35C to be cut in half in the years up to FY2015, with the cancelled buys to be replaced by F-16s and F/A-18s. The chairmen also recommend scrapping the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle and Joint Tactical Radio System, and sends the Army back to square one in its search for a new armored vehicle by scrapping the Ground Combat Vehicle, the ill-defined follow-on to the armored segment of the Future Combat Systems project. In the case of the F-35B, the commission notes that it is the most trouble-prone F-35 variant and that its demise could speed the development of the F-35A and F-35C. However, the dual footnotes DTI's reporting of potential changes to Marine tactics and operations that could eliminate plans to use the F-35B's unique characteristics in austere land bases. (More discussion here.) The chairmen would cap the V-22 at 288 aircraft and re-equip remaining Marine units with MH-60 helicopters, saving $1.1 billion. Less surprising is the recommendation to terminate the gremlin-infested, late and hugely over-budget EFV. The JLTV cancellation is influenced by the fact that a major potential user, the U.S. Army, has reported to Congress that it has all the wheeled vehicles that it needs through 2017. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a8e2f6473-f31c-4d55-abf1-beb011a073c8&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest Looks like the marine's are going to be taking a big hit. Asus Prime Z-370-A Intel core I7-8700K 3.70Ghz Ram g.skill f4-3200c16d 32gb Evga rtx 2070 Ssd samgung 960 evo m.2 500gb Syria, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944 Combined Arms A-10C, Mirage-2000C, F-16C, FC3 Spitfire LF Mk. IX UH-1H, Gazelle
power5 Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Well the good news is that if DCS makes a F105 sim, we will be flying the F35. I mean just look at the empirical data. All the critical flight parameters are identical. :doh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
GGTharos Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Ahh, Carlo ... how we love thee. (Might as well compare a B-2 to a B-29 now). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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