wolfpack11av Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 I worked on the AH-64 for 20 years starting with the A model and now I get to try to fly the damn thing. I got the take off and hover down, but landing has turned into a crash and burn issue. Any suggestions
dburne Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Practice practice practice. It can be challenging for sure. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
poochies Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 The collective is touchy come down too fast and I over compensate and up I 'm going , hard to get it in that sweet spot not sure if it's my hotas throttle
frostycab Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, poochies said: The collective is touchy come down too fast and I over compensate and up I 'm going , hard to get it in that sweet spot not sure if it's my hotas throttle Yep. The ground effect seems to increase very rapidly from 10ft down to 0, much more noticably than in the other helis. If I leave the collective alone she'll yo-yo from 2ft and go back up to around 15 before dropping again, so you definitely need to learn how to finesse it. You need a good feel for the collective in this lady..
Solution Supmua Posted April 3, 2022 Solution Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) I'd practice hovering, once you're comfortable with that you can pretty much land in any position. Practicing approach prior to hovering stop is also important. I find that it's easier for me to approach with nose-tail trim, but once you're comfortable with hovering stop it doesn't matter that much. As frostycab said when you land from hovering ground effect at 10ft and lower will push your aircraft upward and this needs extra nudge on the collective to counter that, if you land at higher speed ~30 you might not experience this. Don't let FPM drop too much or you'll lose control, try to decend slowly within a few hundred FPM. When you make corrections with the stick just nudge and let off and repeat, don’t keep continuous pressure on the stick. Same thing with rudder, this can help stabilize the aircraft quickly. Setting on your gear is also important, took me a while to find comfortable spring tensions/curves/deadzones on my rudder and joystick. I find that trimming too much will mess me up, so once I hover I don't trim. This guy has some nice tutorials on the Apache. I'm definitely not at his level in terms of smoothness but I'm getting there. DCS World | AH-64D | Hovering Practice Part 2 | Tire Box | Turns Around a Tire - YouTube Edited April 3, 2022 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
pii Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 7:58 PM, wolfpack11av said: I worked on the AH-64 for 20 years starting with the A model and now I get to try to fly the damn thing. I got the take off and hover down, but landing has turned into a crash aseriously though nd burn issue. Any suggestions Sooo mechanics aren't pilots? Seriously though I watched seveal landing videos and got to understand what the heck is actually going on before I could land with a nice soft touchdown, in the place I was aiming to land, or even into a low hover. But its quite rewarding when you finally "get it" . Before that I landed like an AH-64 mechanic, In a pile of smoking rubble. 1
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