tn_prvteye Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Not being a big MP guy, I figured I'd take a shot at BS online. I used to fly some Il-2, but I got tired of getting my arse handed to me. I thought at least with Black Shark, it's co-op! :) So, I joined the "Valley of Death III" server hosted by the 159th (it was getting good reviews, and had the most players). Snow. Okay, I haven't flown in snow yet, so I figured it be good practice. I had trouble starting my Right engine, but it finally caught. With everything in the green I flip on rotor anti-ice, and pitot heat. So there I am in the valley, with two other players up ahead. I decide to increase speed to catch up with them. I pull some more torque and get to about 250. I get the engine warning light a few times, but this had happened before in SP and I survived no problem. I push on ahead. Then my Right engine quit. I pulled the throttle to max and tried to restart...no good. I lower the gear and attempt to land on one engine. I land in a river and explode. :) Anyway, fun while it lasted. Anyone got any cold-weather flying tips? ;)
EvilBivol-1 Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Try turning on engine de-icing. ;) - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
Zorrin Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Also pay attention to your aircraft weight. While I'm a firm believer of the saying that you the only time you can have too much fuel is when you are on fire.... Only loading the required fuel in the Shark makes life a hell of a lot easier when you lose the engine at awkward times. While not so much of a problem in colder weather, it really pays dividends when you get to hot and high places... Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
tn_prvteye Posted December 18, 2008 Author Posted December 18, 2008 There's an engine de-icing switch? Crap. :D
EvilBivol-1 Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Yes, it's right next to the rotor de-icing switch. Something I'm afraid many people don't realize is that when you use the start-up cheat (LWIN+HOME), it turns on engine dust protection (same switch as engine de-icing). These eat away some engine power, so they should be turned off after take-off. In some cases, engine de-icing should be turned on instead. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
tn_prvteye Posted December 18, 2008 Author Posted December 18, 2008 Oh, I thought I did have that on, actually. Maybe it was set to Dust Prot instead. I don't use the cheat anymore...hell I've got the start-up memorized (I know, I know, always use your checklists). When I get home I'll set up some Training Missions in cold weather. God I love this sim.
159th_Viper Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Your EKRAN should have warned you a coupla times to turn on the De-Icing before you went Skinny-Dipping in the Valley :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
tn_prvteye Posted December 18, 2008 Author Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, Betty (Nadia?) was saying watch EKRAN, but I was too busy trying a mid-air re-start...gotta work on my emergency procedures. Don't know what I'm gonna do when I actually get into combat!
Madmatt_BFC Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, I was having trouble on that mission last night too. I noticed that even though I had rotor and engine de-icing on, at times I would get those icing warnings and eventually loose power in my engines and crash. The key in that mission is to maintain a low relative altitude as you ascend up the valley. Keep your altitude around 200 meters or less above the valley floor and you should be okay. If you begin to climb beyond that it appears that you get into colder air and your engines can freeze up. Someone online also mentioned that airspeed could be a factor as well (perhaps the faster you are traveling the greater chance of icing up?) although I didn't verify that myself. Madmatt A-10C, AV-8B, F-16C, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, UH-1H, FC3, CA, WWII, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf Gaming Rig: I7 7700k @5GHz, Corsair H115i Water Cooling, 32GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3600MHz DDR4 SDRAM, Aorus GeForce GTX 1080Ti, 2 x Samsung 960 Pro M.2 1TB NVMe SSD's, Warthog HOTAS w/ Slew mod, MFG Crosswind Pedals, 2 x TM Cougar MFD's, Oculus Rift-S, TrackIR 5, Asus ROG PG3480 34" GSync Monitor @3440x1440-100Hz, Asus 27" Monitor @1920x1080-144Hz, Windows 10 x64
159th_Viper Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Someone online also mentioned that airspeed could be a factor as well (perhaps the faster you are traveling the greater chance of icing up?) although I didn't verify that myself. Madmatt The thought crossed my mind too - I ingressed NOE at an average of 250km/h and had Ice-related issues, more so than at an earlier Ingress at approx 50-100km/h...... Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Madmatt_BFC Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, I tried to keep my airspeed around 200km/h but if I got much higher than that, I did seem to pick up more ice warnings. Very cool to see that all modeled! I will be back online tonight to try some more with this mission. There are a few AAA units that I am looking to get some payback on! Madmatt A-10C, AV-8B, F-16C, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, UH-1H, FC3, CA, WWII, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf Gaming Rig: I7 7700k @5GHz, Corsair H115i Water Cooling, 32GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3600MHz DDR4 SDRAM, Aorus GeForce GTX 1080Ti, 2 x Samsung 960 Pro M.2 1TB NVMe SSD's, Warthog HOTAS w/ Slew mod, MFG Crosswind Pedals, 2 x TM Cougar MFD's, Oculus Rift-S, TrackIR 5, Asus ROG PG3480 34" GSync Monitor @3440x1440-100Hz, Asus 27" Monitor @1920x1080-144Hz, Windows 10 x64
tusler Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Don't worry on that mission it is near impossible to see the enemies in that weather and your helo would have wound up Holy anyway! Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
tn_prvteye Posted December 19, 2008 Author Posted December 19, 2008 I found out another helpful tip online last night: Don't drink and fly! I had a few too many White Russians (oh, the irony) before going online. I did fine until I ran across the enemy. I didn't get shot down, though. I was just about to WP 6 when I saw them. I then freaked out, yanked the cyclic back, dropped the collective too quick, and got into a vortex-ring state. BOOM. Next attempt, I said "Screw the valley, I'm going over the top". I forgot about the warning in the briefing about staying IN the valley. BOOM. Not even sure what got me. No laser warning, no visible baddies...just BOOM. Apparently my explosion could be seen for several kilometers and was very entertaining to watch. So, from now on, stay off the sauce before flight! Although, I didn't have any icing problems this time out...so that's something anyway.
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