What's the deal with morphing trees?

[MoleUK]

Unsure whether to put this in the VR section or not, as I mostly play in VR. 

But why do certain tree's oddly change shape as I approach them? Not all of them, just some of them. They look like they're almost turning to face me.

Is there a setting to stop this from happening? I've tried turning down the forest detail, and maxing it out, but it still happens.

[MAXsenna]

This happens mostly for me in Syria. In the Caucasus the shades might trigger strangeness. Marianas I don't remember.

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[MoleUK]

3 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

This happens mostly for me in Syria. In the Caucasus the shades might trigger strangeness. Marianas I don't remember.

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I almost entirely fly caucasus and get it there too. What's odd is that it's not all of the tree's, only the odd one or two here and there. But it never really stops happening, so if it's a performance thing I don't get why it's so inconsistent.

If there were a way to turn the detail down to stop it from happening it'd be great. Or to turn it up. At the moment it can be somewhat offputting, particularly when flying a helo.

Edited April 29, 2022 by MoleUK

[MAXsenna]

I almost entirely fly caucasus and get it there too. What's odd is that it's not all of the tree's, only the odd one or two here and there. But it never really stops happening, so if it's a performance thing I don't get why it's so inconsistent.
If there were a way to turn the detail down to stop it from happening it'd be great. Or to turn it up. At the moment it can be somewhat offputting, particularly when flying a helo.

Ahhhh! I see what you mean. I guess they are the "fake" trees, that are not 3D with collision model. They are easy to see in the fog IIRC.

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[TylerPL666]

As 99% heli pilot I had to max forest detail and visibility - otherwize they appers in last moment. 

to save CPU/GPU for that trees also:

Textures Medium

Terrain textures Low

Terrain shadows OFF

Water Low

Cocpit 1024 [DO NOT use Every frame option]

Clouds Low 

With no MSAA, pixel density 1.0 I have 30-35fps in Apache - for me its ok in crowded Multi - without trees stearing at me when flyby.

[javelina1]

I also use this: 

 

[DerekSpeare]

ED needs to give folks the option just to turn off the trees completely. 

[MoleUK]

12 hours ago, TylerPL666 said:

As 99% heli pilot I had to max forest detail and visibility - otherwize they appers in last moment. 

to save CPU/GPU for that trees also:

Textures Medium

Terrain textures Low

Terrain shadows OFF

Water Low

Cocpit 1024 [DO NOT use Every frame option]

Clouds Low 

With no MSAA, pixel density 1.0 I have 30-35fps in Apache - for me its ok in crowded Multi - without trees stearing at me when flyby.

I even get it with them both maxed out iirc. Will try maxing them out and resetting to see if it fixes it, but it seems like either an engine problem or a problem with those tree models.

10 hours ago, javelina1 said:

I also use this: 

 

Doesn't pass IC for multiplayer though right? Wish there was a tree mod that did, as the default one's don't look too hot in VR.

[TylerPL666]

Just uninstall mod this Tree Mod (or any other mod u have - if u dont know how to use it, or using outdated mod, or updated DCS which mod doesnt support), clear and repair DCS. 

[Dogmanbird]

I see the morphing in the 3 maps I have. 

have to say, when flying very low, they still look a dozen times better than MSFS2000's trees imho

[javelina1]

4 hours ago, MoleUK said:

I even get it with them both maxed out iirc. Will try maxing them out and resetting to see if it fixes it, but it seems like either an engine problem or a problem with those tree models.

Doesn't pass IC for multiplayer though right? Wish there was a tree mod that did, as the default one's don't look too hot in VR.

sorry, can't answer.  I don't fly MP.  I also use Mustang's terrain mod with this as well.  (just FYI)

[MoleUK]

On 4/30/2022 at 12:26 PM, TylerPL666 said:

Just uninstall mod this Tree Mod (or any other mod u have - if u dont know how to use it, or using outdated mod, or updated DCS which mod doesnt support), clear and repair DCS. 

I don't have any terrain or tree mods. The only mod I have installed is a cockpit mod for the hind.

This is a vanilla problem.

[MAXsenna]

I don't have any terrain or tree mods. The only mod I have installed is a cockpit mod for the hind.
This is a vanilla problem.

Hmm, why don't you try Taz's tree mod. It could make them better you know!

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[edmuss]

Installed Taz's tree mod on the back of this thread and they really pop so much better, far more definition

[MoleUK]

24 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Hmm, why don't you try Taz's tree mod. It could make them better you know!

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Unfortunately as far as I know, no tree mod works with multiplayer. And multiplayer is pretty much all I fly atm.

[MAXsenna]

Installed Taz's tree mod on the back of this thread and they really pop so much better, far more definition

Exactly!
Hmmm, maybe we should convince him to make a Syria version.

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Unfortunately as far as I know, no tree mod works with multiplayer. And multiplayer is pretty much all I fly atm.

Ah! Roger!
Make the server admin allow texture mods?

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