investigating George Ai after a while will not WAS to missiles properly, and will un-checker ARM status after lasing and engaging

[hannibal]

i had this problem a few times in which the George Ai will Lase A target, confirms in audio that he is engaging but never fires a AGM114 because the Arm indication in the WPN page never gets a checkered. when i would WAS and checker the ARM status, once press the consent to fire, George Ai, would again confirm in audio he is engaging and lasing (which i monitor vid the cpd sight video on mfd) but yet again he will not shoot and would "un-checker" the ARM status in the WPN page.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BKzZOKUeK0lU-QaDLTvSMkLMjBKdI9br/view?usp=sharing

[Kharrn]

sry cant download and watch the track atm. Though i just tried on the marianas map (weapon range quick start mission). loaded up 4 Hellfires on each inner station (cause you spawn with only 6 total). Went to the target range (about 4km out) into a hover. was pretty high, about 500-600 feet AGL. Let George fire 4 missiles in LOBL, no problems. switched LOAL DIR and killed two targets. switched to LOBL and killed another. switched to LOAL LO and killed another.

BUT: you have to meet all the weapon constraints!!! a PYLON LIM will prevent George from firing - as well as a BAL LIM i assume. And if you fire LOBL wait for missile SKR to detect laser energy (big "box") and then give him consent to fire.

For LOAL i did put George to "free fire" (green) and nothing happened, then gave him "consent to fire" and he rifled a missile with lasing 2 seconds later (as intended).

 

Remark: how do you look at the WPN page to check if George WASed the missiles? do you switch seats? because if you look at YOUR WPN page as pilot you will only see if you - as the pilot - WASed (checkered) the corresponding weapon!

 

possible workaround for your "problem" see here

 

[Zarma]

Watched your track (awful on screen as you are in VR, lots of head movements lol).

- you are trying to kill a target behind a tree, I guess that's why George doesn't fire hellfire at start

- if you WAS missile, George will de-WAS and master arm comes to your statut, "safe" at start

- as you don't have the TADS as acquisition, you never know where George is looking. Trying to shoot without the big square is useless, he won't

- George will never fire rockets alone. You can ask him to WAS rocket for COOP mode,

PS : before take off : CWMS on (if not armed), IHDASS boresight, standbye attitud uncage, APU off, master volume on

[frostycab]

3 hours ago, Zarma said:

Watched your track (awful on screen as you are in VR, lots of head movements lol).

I might be wrong about this as I don't tend to watch tracks very often, but I do fly in VR. IIRC manually adjusting the view just once will interrupt the recorded head movements and leave you in manual view control for the rest of the track. 

[Zarma]

Not used to track review didnt want to stop anything.

[hannibal]

22 hours ago, Zarma said:

Watched your track (awful on screen as you are in VR, lots of head movements lol).

- you are trying to kill a target behind a tree, I guess that's why George doesn't fire hellfire at start

- if you WAS missile, George will de-WAS and master arm comes to your statut, "safe" at start

- as you don't have the TADS as acquisition, you never know where George is looking. Trying to shoot without the big square is useless, he won't

- George will never fire rockets alone. You can ask him to WAS rocket for COOP mode,

PS : before take off : CWMS on (if not armed), IHDASS boresight, standbye attitud uncage, APU off, master volume on

thanks for checking out.

if part of the problem is George Lasing a target behing a tree, then that could be a big problem!

im viewing on MFD set to CPG SIGHT, and i can see him lasing the target, it didnt look like the apc was behind the tree. and i had George dis-engage and re engage and it was the same thing, he says he is ready to fire, but he clears out and turns off the ARM status.

also another session, it also happened to me as i hover in  the air

Edited May 1, 2022 by hannibal

[Zarma]

strange because I never saw this behaviour. Usually it takes him 1-2 sec to fire. If he loses the target or I turn too much the nose and loose the big square during those seconds he won't fire. But most of the time, no problem at all with George....

 

But when I hit the unslave fct it has the behaviour you describe. (WAS off, master arm safe)

And if the pilot WAS the weapon the CPG has WASed (except rockets) it will un-WAS it for the CPG.

 

Try again and use the TADS as acquisition to see where your CPG is looking. 

Edited May 1, 2022 by Zarma