Has anyone made a caucasus BVR mission ?

[swaps]

Hi all,

                   I am looking for a Caucasus BVR mission to practice. I just want planes to hold a distance of about 15 miles from me. Lots of planes and unlimited missiles would be great ! I can make basic missions but have no idea who to  tell planes not to attack and hold distance.

 

Thanks Alan

[Exorcet]

I don't know of any training missions like that specifically, but you can tell planes to not engage by setting their task to Nothing and then adding Reaction to Threat No reaction to their first waypoint. Also add an orbit task to their waypoint and they will stay in the air until they run out of fuel.

[swaps]

24 minutes ago, Exorcet said:

I don't know of any training missions like that specifically, but you can tell planes to not engage by setting their task to Nothing and then adding Reaction to Threat No reaction to their first waypoint. Also add an orbit task to their waypoint and they will stay in the air until they run out of fuel.

Thanks, I will give that a try

 

Alan

[draconus]

44 minutes ago, swaps said:

I just want planes to hold a distance of about 15 miles from me.

That doesn't make much sense. You want them to escape from you?

If you want to practive BVR shooting safely go with the bomber/transport/AWACS first, then add older fighter with SRMs, then more modern fighter with longer sticks, start with rookie difficulty and go up a notch as you practice.

[Aquorys]

If an online/multiplayer mission is an option for you, there are some PvE (humans vs. AI) servers out there that have suitable targets.

E.g., OFS (open flight school) has trigger areas that spawn easy, medium, hard fighter targets and heavy bomber targets. There are also air-to-ground training targets available.

504VFS also has an air-to-air area that also contains some hot ground targets, along with an area of inert ground targets and area of hot air defense systems
162nd Vipers has various intermixed air-to-air and air-to-ground targets.
4YA has missions where you conquer air bases, and the scenario is an intermixed air-to-air/air-to-ground mission with integrated multi-layered air defense systems.

[Hammock]

Have you looked at Bandit on demand mod?

[swaps]

34 minutes ago, Hammock said:

Have you looked at Bandit on demand mod?

I have no idea what this is or where to get it.

 

Thanks Alan

1 hour ago, Aquorys said:

If an online/multiplayer mission is an option for you, there are some PvE (humans vs. AI) servers out there that have suitable targets.

E.g., OFS (open flight school) has trigger areas that spawn easy, medium, hard fighter targets and heavy bomber targets. There are also air-to-ground training targets available.

504VFS also has an air-to-air area that also contains some hot ground targets, along with an area of inert ground targets and area of hot air defense systems
162nd Vipers has various intermixed air-to-air and air-to-ground targets.
4YA has missions where you conquer air bases, and the scenario is an intermixed air-to-air/air-to-ground mission with integrated multi-layered air defense systems.

I have only been on 1 server. I have tried a few times but looks like that many use it I run out of fuel before getting a shot off. I will give it a try on the one's you mention.

 

Thanks Alan

[Baldrick33]

Bandit on Demand:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3320774/

 

[swaps]

Thanks 

Alan

[swaps]

On 5/25/2022 at 6:19 PM, Baldrick33 said:

Bandit on Demand:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3320774/

 

i have installed this but get error need modules A-4e-c, any ideas ? says works with the F-16 on the download page.

 

Ok, I downloaded the free module and it allowed my to open mission but then gave the error need F14. it opened and played, how do you work the voice command ? I used the F10 menu and set up a single mig 29, it was appearing on the threat screen but not on radar. 10 mins of flying and still not on radar and getting BINGO message so running out of fuel.

 

Alan

Edited May 26, 2022 by swaps

[Baldrick33]

17 minutes ago, swaps said:

i have installed this but get error need modules A-4e-c, any ideas ? says works with the F-16 on the download page.

 

It also supports the A-4 as an AI bandit so is looking for the mod. Not sure if you can ignore the error? Otherwise I guess you could remove the A-4 from the mission in the mission editor.

[Aquorys]

What aircraft are you going to fly in this BVR training mission?

I tried to create a training mission with various targets, but it is almost impossible to get those AI aircraft that are supposed to be somewhat more difficult targets to do anything useful.

If I configure them for CAP and set their ROE to "weapons free", they decide on their own that waypoints or an area to defend aren't a thing, and go on a suicide mission half across the map to attack random aircraft in the middle of an air defense zone. If I set the ROE to anything else, they fly along their waypoints, but don't defend themselves at all, unless you go into dogfights with them. There does not seem to be any possibility to configure the AI to fly defensive counter air missions, where they would perform point-defense and also defend themselves if threatened. Some of the other roles that I've tried, like AFAC, or just "Nothing", didn't lead to any useful results either.

[swaps]

13 minutes ago, Aquorys said:

What aircraft are you going to fly in this BVR training mission?

I tried to create a training mission with various targets, but it is almost impossible to get those AI aircraft that are supposed to be somewhat more difficult targets to do anything useful.

If I configure them for CAP and set their ROE to "weapons free", they decide on their own that waypoints or an area to defend aren't a thing, and go on a suicide mission half across the map to attack random aircraft in the middle of an air defense zone. If I set the ROE to anything else, they fly along their waypoints, but don't defend themselves at all, unless you go into dogfights with them. There does not seem to be any possibility to configure the AI to fly defensive counter air missions, where they would perform point-defense and also defend themselves if threatened. Some of the other roles that I've tried, like AFAC, or just "Nothing", didn't lead to any useful results either.

I fly the F-16 c

 

Alan

30 minutes ago, Baldrick33 said:

It also supports the A-4 as an AI bandit so is looking for the mod. Not sure if you can ignore the error? Otherwise I guess you could remove the A-4 from the mission in the mission editor.

works but I need to config the voice thing so I can be clear what I am asking for. I watch the video on the download page but was not very clear to me.

[swaps]

For anyone who want to use this with the voice feature you need to download "voice attack". The bandit on demand download has a config file for it you just need to import it once downloaded. A microphone will be required as well but that should be obvious.  Not have a chance to try it yet but will give it a go tomorrow.

[Hammock]

This can be used w/o VA correct?  

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

I have made one based on the Marianas map, but I guess it would be off-topic.

[swaps]

3 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

I have made one based on the Marianas map, but I guess it would be off-topic.

Thanks, I will give it a go. 

Thanks Alan

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

(Shameless Ad) I suggest you try the version 3.0

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3321701/

The title says TWS, but in fact you can use any method to kill as you see fit. And if you wish to fly a plane which is not included, feel free to copy one of the mission file and change the plane you like.

[swaps]

1 hour ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

(Shameless Ad) I suggest you try the version 3.0

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3321701/

The title says TWS, but in fact you can use any method to kill as you see fit. And if you wish to fly a plane which is not included, feel free to copy one of the mission file and change the plane you like.

Great, I use the F-16c so should be fine as it is.

 

Thanks Alan

[swaps]

23 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

(Shameless Ad) I suggest you try the version 3.0

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3321701/

The title says TWS, but in fact you can use any method to kill as you see fit. And if you wish to fly a plane which is not included, feel free to copy one of the mission file and change the plane you like.

Just tried this and cannot get off the ground ??? parking brake is off wheel brake is off. Chocks removed. full power no movement. will the buttons I have mapped work ? or is there a special command I need ? i'm not sure what is holding me ?

 

Thanks Alan

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

May I ask which plane are you using?

[swaps]

16 minutes ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

May I ask which plane are you using?

Its the f-16c,

Alan

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

The F-16C should take off from the runway.  I fly it just then against some Su-24M and I can shoot them down. Which plane are you flying against?

[Aquorys]

I made some Caucasus BVR training missions for the F-16 and posted them here in the F-16 Missions & Campaign forum, including a description of the missions.

Six levels of difficulty, starting with unarmed passive drone-like targets close to the base, you having unlimited ammo & fuel, and progressing to a difficult final mission to take out an air superiority fighter.

AWACS support & an air defense system at your base in case you need to run home. Plus some eye-candy aircraft on the ground at your home base, so you don't feel so lonely.

I hope you folks like it, let me know what you think if you try them out.

[swaps]

10 hours ago, Aquorys said:

I made some Caucasus BVR training missions for the F-16 and posted them here in the F-16 Missions & Campaign forum, including a description of the missions.

Six levels of difficulty, starting with unarmed passive drone-like targets close to the base, you having unlimited ammo & fuel, and progressing to a difficult final mission to take out an air superiority fighter.

AWACS support & an air defense system at your base in case you need to run home. Plus some eye-candy aircraft on the ground at your home base, so you don't feel so lonely.

I hope you folks like it, let me know what you think if you try them out.

Thanks , I will have a look. 

12 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

The F-16C should take off from the runway.  I fly it just then against some Su-24M and I can shoot them down. Which plane are you flying against?

I sit on the runway, rearm and refuel, Chocks away, parking brake shows as off and I press the  button I have set to release the wheel locks. I do not move at full afterburner power. At that point I have not set any bandits. I read something about just fly to the island and bandits will be there which is what I was trying to do but cannot take off.

 

Thanks Alan