correct as-is Odd Stinger missile

[Red_Camarada]

Hi everyone, I was playing a MP mission and saw some strange stinger behaviour, it was losing guidance in the last sec and missing the TGT. I was able to reproduce it on SP.

odd_stinger.trk

[NineLine]

Can you either give me the steps to reproduce, or try a track on the Caucasus map?

Your track didnt seem to show anything. Is it always against the same unit, or are you seeing it against any unit?

[Red_Camarada]

14 hours ago, NineLine said:

Can you either give me the steps to reproduce, or try a track on the Caucasus map?

Your track didnt seem to show anything. Is it always against the same unit, or are you seeing it against any unit?

Hi @NineLine I just attached two tacview files, one MP and other on SP mission, were you can see the stinger missile missing the target with no detonation.

I will also try to reproduce it on Caucasus, and let you know if anyhing new pops up

Regarding your questions:

-in this missions the stinger missile also missed, in the same way, 4 migs21 on rear aspect, the missiles seems to be missing the proxy fuse

-the steps are simply, I just loaded the mission, hoped in a avenger or lineback unit, and tried to hit enemy planes with heatseeker missile (stinger) preventing the to engage and destroy our convoy

just @ me with there is anything else you may need 

odd_stinger_SP.zip.acmi odd_stinger_MP.zip.acmi

[Red_Camarada]

I tested it on Caucasus and these are the results @NineLine:

- linebacker, hoped in, 2 missiles fired on rear aspect mig21 arround 85% power, both passed by the aircraft with no detonation

odd_stinger2.trk

[NineLine]

Thanks, I will take another look. 

[Mad_Shell]

15 hours ago, Red_Camarada said:

Hi @NineLine I just attached two tacview files, one MP and other on SP mission, were you can see the stinger missile missing the target with no detonation.

I will also try to reproduce it on Caucasus, and let you know if anyhing new pops up

Regarding your questions:

-in this missions the stinger missile also missed, in the same way, 4 migs21 on rear aspect, the missiles seems to be missing the proxy fuse

-the steps are simply, I just loaded the mission, hoped in a avenger or lineback unit, and tried to hit enemy planes with heatseeker missile (stinger) preventing the to engage and destroy our convoy

just @ me with there is anything else you may need 

odd_stinger_SP.zip.acmi 1.12 MB · 0 downloads odd_stinger_MP.zip.acmi 3.87 MB · 0 downloads

The stinger version we have in DCS has no proximity fuse irl, only impact fuse.

The Army began to add a proximity fuse only 2 or 3 years ago, for better effectiveness against UAVs.

Edited June 9, 2022 by Mad_Shell

[de.Impact]

same bug as this ?

 

[NineLine]

1 hour ago, de.Impact said:

same bug as this ?

 

No there is no bug left in that one. Stingers are not 100% no matter what.

[NineLine]

On 6/8/2022 at 12:28 PM, Red_Camarada said:

I tested it on Caucasus and these are the results @NineLine:

- linebacker, hoped in, 2 missiles fired on rear aspect mig21 arround 85% power, both passed by the aircraft with no detonation

odd_stinger2.trk 73.42 kB · 2 downloads

So I converted this to a mission and tried it myself, after several play throughs I was able to score some kills, I don't think this is an issue rather its that the Stinger is not a super AA missile. I think its much better for slower targets, like helicopters. 

[de.Impact]

On 6/9/2022 at 9:52 PM, NineLine said:

No there is no bug left in that one. Stingers are not 100% no matter what.

So the "issue with the hit calculating of missile’s collision" that was confirmed my Chizh was fixed ?

Because this just doesnt look like a physically correct flight path:

Edited June 11, 2022 by de.Impact